Sooners coach resigns over racist remarks

[TheEpitome1920]

Originally posted by Rudey
So this brings up a good point.

If this coach insulted both whites and blacks, is he a racist?

I'm not saying he is or isn't ignorant.

Just based on this comment, that discusses black and white people, then how does it make him seem?

-Rudey

I understand your point but the "h" word doesn't have the same history that the "n" word does.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
Interesting distinction. Didn't Chris Rock say something similar?

Right. So does anyone think Chris was a racist?

-Rudey

[Rudey]

Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
I understand your point but the "h" word doesn't have the same history that the "n" word does.

Maybe not. I put the definition below because I didn't really know what it meant. But is that racism or ignorance that he thinks they are the same?

hon·ky or hon·kie also hon·key ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hôngk, hng-)
n. Offensive Slang pl. hon·kies, also hon·keys
Used as a disparaging term for a white person.


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[Possibly blend of Wolof honq, red, pink, of light complexion, and hunky1.]

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honky

n : offensive names for a White man [syn: whitey, honkey, honkie]

-Rudey

[Lil' Hannah]

Originally posted by Rudey
Just based on this comment, that discusses black and white people, then how does it make him seem?

-Rudey

It makes him seem like an idiot, and regardless of what he thinks about people of any race, he should have known better than to say anything and to use offensive language.

[TheEpitome1920]

Originally posted by Rudey
Maybe not. I put the definition below because I didn't really know what it meant. But is that racism or ignorance that he thinks they are the same?

hon·ky or hon·kie also hon·key ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hôngk, hng-)
n. Offensive Slang pl. hon·kies, also hon·keys
Used as a disparaging term for a white person.


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[Possibly blend of Wolof honq, red, pink, of light complexion, and hunky1.]

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honky

n : offensive names for a White man [syn: whitey, honkey, honkie]

-Rudey

Hmm... I'm not quite sure how to label this incident. I think a lot of White folks have these opinions about Black folks but in trying to be PC they figure out other ways to express them. He just wasn't as tactful and lost his job!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Rudey
Right. So does anyone think Chris was a racist?

-Rudey

Nope.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Lil' Hannah
The rest of that quote was "There are honkies and white people. And there are n-----s and black people. Dunigan is a good black kid."

With the history of the "n" word in this country, he should've known better.

He was making a distinction between different types of blacks and whites. A smart person wouldn't have tried (at least not publicly...people do all sorts of things privately) to make that distinction in the first place.

I don't think he is racist (although he does remind me of an Archie Bunker...who was racist towards nonwhites even IF he also said things to offend whites). I think he should've resigned because he is ignorant and inappropriate toward whites and blacks.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Lil' Hannah
It makes him seem like an idiot, and regardless of what he thinks about people of any race, he should have known better than to say anything and to use offensive language.

Idiot does not mean racist.

-Rudey

[Rudey]

Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
Hmm... I'm not quite sure how to label this incident. I think a lot of White folks have these opinions about Black folks but in trying to be PC they figure out other ways to express them. He just wasn't as tactful and lost his job!

But it seems it's not just black folks that he has these opinions about.

-Rudey

[Lil' Hannah]

Originally posted by Rudey
Idiot does not mean racist.

-Rudey

I didn't say it was. Chaos articulated it better than I did a few posts up.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Lil' Hannah
I didn't say it was. Chaos articulated it better than I did a few posts up.

I don't read what she writes. But anyway, the thread started out as saying this guy was racist. And you said he was an idiot. I just wanted to push and see whether people really see him or his words as racist.

-Rudey

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Lil' Hannah
I didn't say it was. Chaos articulated it better than I did a few posts up.

I believe he still has me on ignore.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Rudey
I don't read what she writes.

Which is funny when it comes to topics that I know more about than he does.

[KSig RC]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
I think he should've resigned because he is ignorant and inappropriate toward whites and blacks.

The strangest part of this incident is that neither the kid referred to in this situation nor his parents thought the coach should resign - and neither did the only other African American member of the team, and his parents. I can't imagine why they would feel this way, but according to espn.com, both students and both sets of parents were not happy to see the coach resign.

Regardless, the man displayed some intense stupidity - apparently there was some debate within espn on how to report the situation. It'll be interesting to see how/if this develops further.

[The Truth]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
With the history of the "n" word in this country, he should've known better.

He was making a distinction between different types of blacks and whites. A smart person wouldn't have tried (at least not publicly...people do all sorts of things privately) to make that distinction in the first place.

I don't think he is racist (although he does remind me of an Archie Bunker...who was racist towards nonwhites even IF he also said things to offend whites). I think he should've resigned because he is ignorant and inappropriate toward whites and blacks.

Exactly!! There is a time and a place and unfortunately for him he did not know how to make the distinction. Oh, but I bet he has learned his lesson. The next time he feels the need to explain the difference between a n***** and a black kid, he'll think not once, not twice, but three times.

He should have known speaking to the press like that was a no-no and since he obviously did not, that is what makes him the idiot.

GOOD RIDDANCE DUMMY!