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Old 05-10-2005, 08:30 PM
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Also, since Harm was wearing Captain's stripes he had accepted the promotion and therefore incurred a two year committment for continuation on active duty.
You're probably right, however, going back to the episode of the week before, the General said that Harm's new job was a Captain's billet, and that the "06 Board" (06 for Full Colonels in most services, Captains in the Navy) had authorized "frocking" in this case.

As I understand Navy "frocking," it allows the officer who is frocked to don the insignia of the new rank and use its authority, but the official promotion is not yet in effect, nor is the officer paid in the new grade until the promotion is "official."

I've heard it described as being like kissing your sister.

Maybe in that case Harm would not have had to commit to the additional two years until he was "officially" promoted?

Does that make any sense?
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Old 05-10-2005, 08:34 PM
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You're probably right, however, going back to the episode of the week before, the General said that Harm's new job was a Captain's billet, and that the "08 Board" (08 for Full Colonels in most services, Captains in the Navy) had authorized "frocking" in this case.

As I understand Navy "frocking," it allows the officer who is frocked to don the insignia of the new rank and use its authority, but the official promotion is not yet in effect, nor is the officer paid in the new grade until the promotion is "official."

I've heard it described as being like kissing your sister.

Maybe in that case Harm would not have had to commit to the additional two years until he was "officially" promoted?

Does that make any sense?
Minor note: Colonel/Naval Captain is the grade of O-6, not O-8.

Your definition of Frocking is correct. It allows an officer who has an upcoming promotion wear the rank before his official date of rank, however he still gets paid the lower rank.
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Old 05-10-2005, 08:38 PM
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Yeah, thanks. Still a little jet lagged. It occurred to me and I changed it -- probably while your were responding.
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Old 05-10-2005, 10:34 PM
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While not impossible, I don't know if a TV movie is in the cards.

The reason for the cancellation is that David James Elliot signed an "exclusive" deal to create new shows for NBC as I understand it.
Actually, that's why they brought in that new guy. They were going to continue the show without David James Elliot next year, and focus on Mac and Vukovic in San Diego.
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Old 05-11-2005, 12:04 AM
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Actually, that's why they brought in that new guy. They were going to continue the show without David James Elliot next year, and focus on Mac and Vukovic in San Diego.
I think that was pretty obvious. I guess the guy didn't make a quick enough impact.

Since I was out of the country, I just watched the show tonight.

Here's my suspicion. When they cut to the high shot of the coin toss at the very end -- it froze on "heads." Since Mac had called "tails," and since she wasn't in uniform, it clearly means that she gives up her career.

See, you've gotta find those hidden meanings.

By the way, did you hear that "Paul is Dead?"

(Sorry, most of you are probably too young to relate to that last line.)
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Old 05-11-2005, 10:14 AM
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I asked a Navy Captain about frocking and his take was that one was not frocked unless the officer in question had officially accepted the assignment and committed to executing his orders. While not legally binding until he gets paid for the rank, any officer accepting frocking was EXPECTED to pay his dues in return. Harm is committed, so its off to NAVEUR.

Another side thought: Since NAVEUR has moved to Naples and that is where RADM Chegwidden's daughter lives...
I miss Admiral C and keep grasping at straws looking for a way for him to return as a guest star in any future shows/movies.
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Old 05-11-2005, 12:51 PM
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I asked a Navy Captain about frocking and his take was that one was not frocked unless the officer in question had officially accepted the assignment and committed to executing his orders. While not legally binding until he gets paid for the rank, any officer accepting frocking was EXPECTED to pay his dues in return. Harm is committed, so its off to NAVEUR.
Makes sense to me -- but that Harm guy is a lawyer. Give him a loophole and he'll sail an aircraft carrier through it.

Others might drive a tank...well, never mind.

Maybe Harm and Mac will show up where ever it is in Europe and all of Harm's former "partners" and "RIOs" -- at least one of whom mentioned having sex with him against a hotel room wall in one of the episodes -- and the Admirals daughter, who was obviously interested will end up there as well.

That could be more dangerous than a low level photo recon flight.
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Old 05-11-2005, 01:44 PM
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That could be more dangerous than a low level photo recon flight.
The motto of low-level reconnaissance pilots: "alone, unarmed, unafraid." The REAL motto, not for public consumption: "alone, unarmed, scared sh*tless!"
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Old 05-12-2005, 10:25 AM
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OK, I gave this a lot of thought last night.

Well, would you believe a little thought?

A passing whim?

Anyway...

Even though David James Elliot has a deal with NBC, that doesn't mean that whatever NBC develops won't be sold or produced for another network. NBC Productions does a lot of stuff that's not for the National Biscuit Company.

So, here's my senario:

Mac resigns her commission and they move to Europe -- where ever.

Mac joins the Marine Reserves at a reserve rank of full Bird Colonel, is seconded to the CIA and the two of them fight for truth, justice and the American Way.

After all, the Marines don't want to give up someone entirely who is a great shot, a kickboxer (actually, in real life), is drop dead gorgeous and has a great set of...eyes.

What do you think?
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