GOP makes push to court African Americans

[DC_Zeta1920]

Dems and Republicans are both full of @#$%

Abaici both sides make my skin crawl

[06pilot]

I am new to this board. I found this topic interesting. I thought this was a site for intellectual discussion on topics by educated people. Not lude one liners.

I am a Conservative Democrat. I think more mainstream African Amercians need to join the Republican party because we need a voice there like we have i the Democratic party. Before FDR's time, The Republican party was "friends" to Black people. AFter the New Deal is when it all changed. But we need a voice to inthe GOP to let our issues come forth. I like Republicans becaus eof their stance of Defense. I aminthe military and I always get a raise every year. I also like their stance on pulling yourself up by your bootstraps and not relying on the government to do it. Democrats practice what I like to call economic slavery. They trhow money to the poor but dont teach tthe poor how to get money for themselves. By that the Dems own the poor and they are at the mercy of the governemt.They become dependant on the government. We need to learn to depend on ourselves and make our own money.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally posted by 06pilot
I am new to this board. I found this topic interesting. I thought this was a site for intellectual discussion on topics by educated people. Not lude one liners.

I am a Conservative Democrat. I think more mainstream African Amercians need to join the Republican party because we need a voice there like we have i the Democratic party. Before FDR's time, The Republican party was "friends" to Black people. AFter the New Deal is when it all changed. But we need a voice to inthe GOP to let our issues come forth. I like Republicans becaus eof their stance of Defense. I aminthe military and I always get a raise every year. I also like their stance on pulling yourself up by your bootstraps and not relying on the government to do it. Democrats practice what I like to call economic slavery. They trhow money to the poor but dont teach tthe poor how to get money for themselves. By that the Dems own the poor and they are at the mercy of the governemt.They become dependant on the government. We need to learn to depend on ourselves and make our own money.

Given that my father, a member of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. is a GOP member, I think I can pretty much say what I think about this Grand Olde Party... It sucks...

But Dems aren't that far either...

Dubya has been bought a paid for by the corporate greeders... Pimp Mack Daddy Clinton did make folks plenty of money... Which side would you choose?

Yeah, I think there needs to be representation on both sides of the aisle. But, I also think that this heerah Untied State Government is not meant for us few, the brave, the proud group of those that actually call themselves of African descent...

I have also heard those black folks in the military being called governmental slaves. But that's a my terrorist organization friends saying that...

[06pilot]

How can I be a slave if I enjoy what I am doing? I enjoy the military. I enjoy leading soldiers and influencing others.Its what true leadership is all about. Flying jets and leading and managing resources is my idea of enjoyment. SO, no I dont feel lie a government slave.

There were African American General Officers long before there were Black CEO's of predominantly white corporations.

[dirtymike1906]

Wolves in sheep's clothing!!!

[06pilot]

And that came from someone with a college education

[dirtymike1906]

Actually, I borrowed that from Jesse Jackson--he went to college as well.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally posted by 06pilot
How can I be a slave if I enjoy what I am doing? I enjoy the military. I enjoy leading soldiers and influencing others.Its what true leadership is all about. Flying jets and leading and managing resources is my idea of enjoyment. SO, no I dont feel lie a government slave.

You are very fortunate that PHA/Shriner1906 hasn't posted up in here in awhile because well, I leave it to you to search this board...

Either way, good for you and your enjoyment. You should feel so fortunate that your CO's allow you to fly billion dollar aircrafts for a living.

[southernelle25]

Because African Americans are rather conservative, the GOP wouldn't necessarily have to fight an uphill battle for our votes. The problem, IMO, is their perceived stance against civil rights and affirmative action measures.

I also believe that African Americans need to shake things up a bit. What's the worse that could happen? As a minority among minorities, we are frightfully close to becoming irrelevant in big-time politics.

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by southernelle25
Because African Americans are rather conservative, the GOP wouldn't necessarily have to fight an uphill battle for our votes. The problem, IMO, is their perceived stance against civil rights and affirmative action measures.

I also believe that African Americans need to shake things up a bit. What's the worse that could happen? As a minority among minorities, we are frightfully close to becoming irrelevant in big-time politics.

That pretty much has happened in California, even though the state leans Democrat now.

Cali's total AfAm population is only 7% and has become spread out because many of us are at least middle-middle-class and can move out of historically black areas (such as what happened in Los Angeles post-Rodney King). There are virtually no blacks in the state Senate or Assembly now.

Also the Latino population is growing and the dominant minority in all aspects of life -- not just politics -- in San Diego, my city, the putative R&B/hip-hop stations play reggaeton. That wouldn't happen in Atlanta, but I digress.

[TonyB06]

Bringing back party of Lincoln
By Clarence Page
Originally published June 20, 2006
WASHINGTON // An intriguing debate has broken out among Republican elites over how to treat black folks.

On one side, you have those such as Jack Kemp, the former New York congressman and 1996 Republican vice presidential candidate, who would like to break the Democratic Party's 9-1 lock on black voters by reaching out with positive and meaningful gestures. Mr. Kemp wrote a commentary published in late May in Human Events and newspapers that called on the GOP to "get on the right side of history" on racial matters.

He suggested two ways to do this: by extending all of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, parts of which are set to expire next year, and "by extending the voting franchise to the residents of District of Columbia," which is predominantly black and lacks voting representation in Congress.

"Slander," responded conservative essayist Steven M. Warshawsky. "Mr. Kemp's article is an outrage." His article appeared under the headline "Jack Kemp's White Guilt" in The American Spectator. Mr. Warshawsky does not necessarily disagree with Mr. Kemp's suggestion, but with the justification: "His premise - that the Republican Party is on the 'wrong' side of history on racial matters - is deeply flawed, both as a matter of historical fact and political philosophy."

Mr. Warshawsky cites historical examples of the GOP's "strong support for black Americans" dating to its origins before the Civil War, often with Democrats on the other side, defending slavery and segregation.

Who's right? As with many other questions about race and rights, that depends on what part of history you're talking about.

read the rest:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opi...0,941830.story

[AKA_Monet]

Right now, I find great irony in these matters of state...

All this for jockeying votes? And some Negroes will do that you know... GOP is beginning to fracture upon itself. Plenty of folks are beginning to see the true nature of this beast.

And why do you think "they" (the powers that be) let Karl Rove (of the 3rd Reich) go essentially, "Scot Free"? Shall we say, let the "spin doctors" on the "F" channel in???

All to save seats in the 2006 November election--owned and operated by Diebold cash machines...

And folks are posting up crazy stuff as propositions and ballots in every state in the Union that has nothing to do with poor people and improving the Untied States...

What will it take for the US to be United? Another 9-11 attack? But this time, from Kim Jung-Il and his nuclear missile launches...

In the immortal words of Prince from his 1999 song: I don't wanna die, I'd rather dance my life away...

[n4sir5]

I was on the Juneteenth Celebration Conference Call with Mehlman, Alphonso Jackson et al to discuss minority homeownership and business development. Looks like if you aren't directly affected by Katrina... your pickin's may be slim and non. It is best to try to get our own ON our own.... The Only Thing the collective Donkey's and Pachiderm's have at the top of their agenda is....getting re-elected.

WAR: Tip O'Neil...All politics are local

[Rain Man]

Just to clarify:

The GOP didn't historically represent the wealthy and conservative (nor the Dems the working/underpriviledged and liberals until the 1960s). It disturbs me to see Blacks talk about the GOP like they were Satan's son, even though historically that was not the case. Case in point, FDR was a GOP.

But it is indeed interesting to see more Blacks joining the GOP in recent years (and in the '04 presidential election, special interest groups such as America's PAC was pushing hard for Blacks to go GOP).

Myself? I find neither of the major parties appealing to me, and once it is recognized on Ohio's ballots, I am going the Libertarian route.

[TonyB06]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Case in point, FDR was a GOP.

If by "FDR" you're referencing Franklin D. Roosevelt, your statement is incorrect. FDR was first elected to the NY State Senate in 1910, Governor of NY in 1928 and President of the United States in 1932 (all as a Democrat.)

You may be referencing Theodore Roosevelt, who was a Republican.