Sigma Pi, Clarion: 80 minors face charges

[PSK480]

Ok, this is from eye witness accounts of the incident. The LCB and Staties(State Police) were actually there to bust KDR(Right next door to Pi). Since KDR was having a mixer and Pi was having a party they then decided to bust Pi. 2 Full cruisers pulled up to the parking lot and surround the house via the woods around it. When the other cars pulled up the police in the woods moved in on the house to keep people from fleaing into the woods and surrounds. The university officials then showed up ad helped in the identification and investigation of the party. So basically you're all right. The university has recieved a grant to combat underage drinking and was working with the staties and LCB, but it was the LCB and staties who actually conducted the raid.

[fire1977]

Originally posted by PSK480
Since KDR was having a mixer and Pi was having a party they then decided to bust Pi.

Off topic and I'm assuming here - but how are they having a mixer in a "fraternity house" when Clarion has 7 NPC sororities there that are in at least the "2nd tier" of the infamous 3 tiered alcohol resolution from 2000? "2nd tier" being mixers at 3rd party vendors.

Edited to change the year.

[33girl]

Originally posted by fire1977
Off topic and I'm assuming here - but how are they having a mixer in a "fraternity house" when Clarion has 7 NPC sororities there that are in at least the "2nd tier" of the infamous 3 tiered alcohol resolution from 2001? "2nd tier" being mixers at 3rd party vendors.

Maybe it was an alcohol free mixer?

[kddani]

Originally posted by 33girl
Maybe it was an alcohol free mixer?

hahahaha. I always love the concept of those... either it's in name only, or everyone gets so totally loaded before going it doesn't matter

[Tom Earp]

Hopefully, there will be more inforamation coming!

HAHAHAHAH! Not there, so do not judge via Media Reports, They Suck!

[VTBaZ]

Wow, they're busting our houses left and right. First Colorado State, now this...

[PSK480]

UPDATE:

From our assistant director of campus life(he's PHC and IFC advisor), Sigma Pi is fine with there National HQ. But, they still have University Judiciary Board to go through. Our ADCL said that if he had to bet his own money, "they'll probably lose university recognition." So, we'll see how this plays out and I'll keep you updated as soon as I get more info from IFC.

[33girl]

All I can say is if their national backs them and the school derecognizes them - or should I say "surrenders any control over them" because that is what it will be - it'll be a giant mistake on the school's part.

[SigmaPezY60]

anyone know what happened with this situation?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by 33girl

How on earth can it be legal for university personnel to "assist in the investigation" of a housing unit described as above?

Most likely, the House Corporations/organizations have all granted that authority to the university. This came up at my school, and we made sure the idea died before it gained any momentum.

[AngelPhiSig]

From what I hear down the grapevine from my sisters still at Clarion - the sorority is still there... (and NO, it wasnt mine...)

BUT - from what I know Sig Pi is NOT there. When I was a freshman in 99 we had 9 fraternities. The ones Im hearing now are: TKE, Phi Delts, Phi Mu Alpha (no house) and off campus PSK. Possibly KDR?

Lost:

Sig Pi, Sig Chi, Theta Xi, Theta Chi, Sig Tau Gamma.

[EE-BO]

Originally Posted by BSUPhiSig'92

On our campus, while the University does not recognize off-campus housing ( there's only one house), the Student Code of Conduct states that student organizations may be held accountable for violations that occur on or off-campus. I'm guessing something like this allows Clarion to investigate.
As far as the housing issue is concerned, I'm certain the local authority will be taking that up with the landlord. I know when something happens with our students in town, the city expects the university to hold those students accountable.

I would expect it is standard for just about any college to declare that a gathering of 2 or more students in any setting are deemed to "represent" the college and thus be accountable for any behavior that could bring discredit on the college. Enforcement would certainly be rare- but the whole idea is that if something gets in the paper, the college will be named too, and so as members of the college and of a college-recognized student organization- those students would be subject to punishment by the college. This is how things were at every school I have ever attended (college, high school etc.)

As for the housing issue, Greek houses are subject to all sorts of local regulations because they are considered multi-family dwellings of some sort of another. We got fined once because during an inspection the health department found out we had left our ice scoop in the ice machine. So the expectations of privacy are not quite the same in a Greek house as they would be in your own home- including the grounds on which a raid could take place to bust underage drinking.

Is anyone else aware of frequent past instances where police conducted a raid on a Greek house during a party to bust underage drinkers?

I ask because I have never seen this happen before. I have seen people get busted when the police responded to noise complaints, and at Texas I have seen police waiting in the streets to ticket anyone who stepped off private property with a drink in their hand and happened to be underage- but actual raids in Greek houses are a new thing to me.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by ktsnake

Most likely, the House Corporations/organizations have all granted that authority to the university. This came up at my school, and we made sure the idea died before it gained any momentum.

That's my point. Some of them don't have housing corporations as the houses are owned by landlords same as other college housing - the alums would have no say in what happens there. We never had a housing corporation.

And EE-BO, all the houses are OFF campus and to my knowledge, none of them are owned outright by the sororities or fraternities or their housing corps (if they have one).

[33girl]

Originally Posted by AngelPhiSig

From what I hear down the grapevine from my sisters still at Clarion - the sorority is still there... (and NO, it wasnt mine...)

BUT - from what I know Sig Pi is NOT there. When I was a freshman in 99 we had 9 fraternities. The ones Im hearing now are: TKE, Phi Delts, Phi Mu Alpha (no house) and off campus PSK. Possibly KDR?

Lost:

Sig Pi, Sig Chi, Theta Xi, Theta Chi, Sig Tau Gamma.

KDR is still there too.

PSK (just so as not to confuse non-Clarionites) is recognized by their national HQ but not by the university. All the fraternity and sorority houses are located off campus.