My Litte Greek Heart Is Broken!!! - Page 2

phillyinterest6 · #1 03-19-2005, 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by laidbackfella
Again for everyone who happens to be reading this, I am NOT a member of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc.

Just a concerned member of a BGLO.

It's not your aspirations that I questioned, it's the latent message in your second response that concerns me.

In that case you should feel proud of the legacy you've started there.

It seems as if you don't need Alpha to truly make a mark.

IF you are granted an opportunity to be considered for membership in the future those experiences will have served you well.

IF thats how you truly feel.

It should matter not whether you are given an opportunity Grad or Undergrad.

The brotherhood is what you are saying that you are interested in.

All of this is admirable.

Your second response, however, seemed to provide several conditionals as to why you feel you wouldn't make a good member if you went Grad.

Maybe I'm simply reading too much into what you wrote.

Your desire may be pure.

It's the interests that concerned me.

Why shouldn't we be?

We've earned the privilege to wear the letters and live our oath one to another.

If that shouldn't be protected enthusiastically, what should?

I know that Men of Alpha appreciate seeing that.

Many times persons interested rarely search for a historical perspective.

Blessings come in God's time not yours.

Preparing for that time is all that you can do at this point.

I'd hope not.

But I'd also hope that you look back at your posts and try to UNDERSTAND where I am coming from with my comments.

You don't know me and I don't know you.

However when I speak it's to make a point and several things about your post did not sit well with me.

As i stated to another member i do have to apologize for seeming defensive and angry. I do thank you for taking the time to analyze my post and help me see certain things that honestly i may have not realized i thought, felt or even said. So i do understand your reasoing and i also understand why greeks are so defensive when they come into contact with aspirants, for the simple fact as you pointed out you worked hard for your letters and most greeks love their organizations, i didnt think about it that way. So i do understand what you are saying and i honestly appericate your guidance. Sometimes we look for advice and expect it to taste like sugar when sometimes we actually need a little salt on our plate!

With highest respect and apperication

PHAShriner/1906 · #2 03-20-2005, 02:16 PM

Hotep Brothers. "Heartbroken one" you stated a rather intriguing and defensive response to the ADVICE that you was given by ALPHAS and various other D9 (elite 8 in my day) members. Your ambition, determination, and drive as so stated insofar as your interest in a great fraternity is to be lauded; but sadly I stand on MY VIEWPOINT, that your written attestment as best reflected by YOUR TONE clearly is indicative of many of TODAY'S membership comprising up of the "new wave" boat members of BLACK FRATERNITIES & SORORITIES. I truly believe it to be no laughing matter when someone expresses interest in joining ALPHA PHI ALPHA FRATERNITY, INC. I would NEVER vouch for a one who is without HUMILITY (something that a few of MY FELLOW ALPHA BROTHERS might perceive you to be w/out & lacking as shown your post). Your seeking ALPHADOM might pose to be quite difficult if you step to the BROTHERHOOD the way in which your defensive tone so appeared to be. You can choose to interpret the vibe of this post however you want. I post in peace, and I am suggesting that you HUMBLE yourself to LISTEN, and interpret reasoning given you by bonna fide members of ANY ORGANIZATION that you are so interested to join. Years ago there were "SMOKERS" whereby you would be DISMISSED in less than THREE MINUTES if you came to MY BROTHERS w/such a PISS POOR attitude. Your attitude is privy to being perceived as "PISS POOR" by those who are on the SIDE you are "trying" to get to. Humble yourself and do what you can to prove them wrong and maybe just maybe you will be granted the honor of "EARNED" membership. Good luck in your endeavor to pursue ALPHADOM.

phillyinterest6 · #3 03-20-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by PHAShriner/1906
Hotep Brothers. "Heartbroken one" you stated a rather intriguing and defensive response to the ADVICE that you were given by ALPHAS and various other D9 (elite 8 in my day) members. Your ambition, determination, and drive as so stated insofar as your interest in a great fraternity is to be lauded; but sadly I stand on MY VIEWPOINT, that your written attestment as best reflected by YOUR TONE clearly is indicative of many of TODAY'S membership comprising up of the "new wave" boat members of BLACK FRATERNITIES & SORORITIES. I truly believe it to be no laughing matter when someone expresses interest in joining ALPHA PHI ALPHA FRATERNITY, INC. I would NEVER vouch for a MALE who is without HUMILITY something that a few of MY FELLOW ALPHA BROTHERS might perceive to have lacking. Your seeking ALPHADOM might pose to be quite difficult if you step to the BROTHERHOOD the way in which your defensive tone so appeared to be. You can choose to interpret the vibe of this post however you want. I post in peace, and I am suggesting that you HUMBLE yourself to LISTEN, and interpret reasoning given you by bonna fide members of ANY ORGANIZATION that you are so interested to join. Years ago there were "SMOKERS" whereby you would be DISMISSED in less than THREE MINUTES if you came to MY BROTHERS w/such a PISS POOR attitude. Your attitude is privy to being perceived as "PISS POOR" by those who are on the SIDE you are "trying" to get to. Humble yourself and do what you can to prove them wrong and maybe just maybe you will be granted the honor of "EARNED" membership. Good luck in your endeavor to pursue ALPHADOM.

As with the other members that offered me advice i feel that it's important that i apologize to you. As a member of any of these distinguished organizations, you all deserve a certain amount of respect from me just for the simple fact that you've done something that i strive to do someday. I really do appericative your advice, because i honesty believe if you didnt care about me as a aspirant you would have just scrolled along through my post and left. The fact that you took time out to point out some issues that i may not have realized is highly commendable and apperciated. I do understand why you feel the way you do. I underestimated the love that you as a member of such an organization feels about it. I as an aspirant sometimes feel as if i'm the only person (at least at my school) who shares a love for Alpha. I can promise you this is not my attitude all the time and it was out of anger because i didnt realize the advice given to me was just that helpful and caring advice. I've learned to take advice like i said earlier it's not always gonna be sweet but sometimes the bitter is the most important. But i do share an unparrelled love for Alpha, and wish to be a part of such a distinguished organization. I hope that you do know that I am an honest and true aspirant of Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity Inc. and whether i'm allowed to share in this brotherhood tommorrow or 10 years from now my love will never go away. Once again thank you for your most useful advice and know that i am working on the things that were bought to my attention. Im a very headstrong person and sometimes that comes off the wrong way. Thank you

PHAShriner/1906 · #4 03-20-2005, 06:25 PM

Hotep Brothers. Mr. Philly, your offering of understanding is kindly accepted by this here Blackman. Be it known, that one must be careful about professing "love" blindly toward that which h/she does not really know. This is not to imply that you do not know something about Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. for you do or else you obviously would not have posted in this room. Nevertheless, PATIENCE along w/observation and RESEARCH is very important whenever one is to embark upon a lifelong journey. I liken such to marriage. Do you have a Queen in your life? Many scoff at such a ? but I do not. I readily ask individuals who are interested in any BLACKMANS fraternal organization of mine whether they are under the power of the BLACKWOMAN. Any BLACKMAN who is w/out a BLACKWOMAN in his life causes for me to bluntly ask of his reason for such. Before I offer my time I must know that he DOES LIKE BLACKWOMEN and is NOT a FLAME THROWER. No offense but you do like BLACK FEMALES right? Philly, has some very nice Queens of the likes of Jill Scott, etc. Catch my drift? Mr. Philly, have you ever read Frances Cress Welsing's "The Isis Papers?" You can obtain some important answers to your ? that you posted in another thread.

phillyinterest6 · #5 03-20-2005, 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by PHAShriner/1906
Hotep Brothers. Mr. Philly, your offering of understanding is kindly accepted by this here Blackman. Be it know, that one must be careful about professing "love" blindly toward that which h/she does not really know. This is not to imply that you do not know something about Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. for you do or else you obviously would not have posted in this room. Nevertheless, PATIENCE along w/observation and RESEARCH is very important whenever one is to embark upon a lifelong journey. I liken such to marriage. Do you have a Queen in your life? Many scoff at such a ? but I do not. I readily ask individuals who are interested in any BLACKMANS fraternal organization of mine whether they are under the power of the BLACKWOMAN. Any BLACKMAN who is w/out a BLACKWOMAN in his life causes for me to bluntly ask of his reason for such. Before I offer my time I must know that he DOES LIKE BLACKWOMEN and is NOT a FLAME THROWER. No offense but you do like BLACK FEMALES right? Philly, has some very nice Queens of the likes of Jill Scott, etc. Catch my drift? Mr. Philly, have you ever read Frances Cress Welsing's "The Isis Papers?" You can obtain some important answers to your ? that you posted in another thread.

Currently right now there is a Nubian Queen in my life. who support and love is something that keeps me going. I personally love black women. I've dated white women before,, and although i am not racisit, they're not for me. I love the strength in a black, the abilty to say how she feels and say in such a way that i know it's coming from the heart. I've seen the strength in my mother and my grandmother, and i look for the same thing in my Nubian Queen. I believe that black women were created with strength, courage , and wisdom. Im not a "flame Thrower" lol, but i do have a question. I've been invited to many Alpha events and there were alot of "Flame throwers" there was no mistake about that. Openly gay BLACk men in such a noble organization thatwas built on manly deeds. DOnt get me wrong im not gay bashing just saying shouldnt there be some kind of unspoken rule stating that what bumps in tha night should stay in the darK? Tell me if im overstepping my boundiares here

ladygreek · #6 03-20-2005, 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
Currently right now there is a Nubian Queen in my life. who support and love is something that keeps me going. I personally love black women. I've dated white women before,, and although i am not racisit, they're not for me. I love the strength in a black, the abilty to say how she feels and say in such a way that i know it's coming from the heart. I've seen the strength in my mother and my grandmother, and i look for the same thing in my Nubian Queen. I believe that black women were created with strength, courage , and wisdom.

Then why the thread about being with White women?

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Im not a "flame Thrower" lol, but i do have a question. I've been invited to many Alpha events and there were alot of "Flame throwers" there was no mistake about that. Openly gay BLACk men in such a noble organization thatwas built on manly deeds. DOnt get me wrong im not gay bashing just saying shouldnt there be some kind of unspoken rule stating that what bumps in tha night should stay in the darK? Tell me if im overstepping my boundiares here

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RBL · #7 03-20-2005, 09:28 PM

Why respond to this thread

PHAShriner/1906 · #8 03-20-2005, 09:38 PM

Hotep Brothers. Mr. Phillyinterest, YIPEEEEE! You are w/a GREATNESS! I am pleased to know you have embarked upon the HONOR & PLEASURE of the FIRST TEACHER (aka BLACKWOMAN). PROTECT her at ALL COSTS!. Now, on to business. Be it known, that there is an ongoing ATTACK & ASSAULT to WEAKEN the MASCULINITY of the BLACKMAN, and this form of sickness has infected many BLACK MALE FRATERNAL GROUPS. No need to worry though because BLACK MANHOOD will surely prevail and come out on top (no pun intended). The COUNCIL of ALPHAMEN who promote, support, & advocate BLACK MANHOOD are enduring a movement that is taking place right this very minute. I know many are scratching their heads and saying, "WTF is this dude (or some derogatory name) on?" I assure you that ALPHA PHI ALPHA FRATERNITY, INC. is not going to EVER be accepting as a MATROSEXUAL, HOMOSEXUAL, or any other SEXUAL other than H-E-T-E-R-O-S-E-X-U-A-L FRATERNITY. I promise. In the meantime make sure you explore what GREATNESS you have and can contribute should you be blessed to join the ranks of GREAT BLACK MEN who have been claimed as SONS (not DAUGHTERS) of KING ALPHA (not QUEEN ALPHA). I welcome providing you further insight into your GREATNESS along w/your pursuit of your fraternal endeavor. Lastly, make sure you visit Temple University's AfriKan Studies Dept. and tell my mentor Dr. Asante I said, "HOTEP!" Stay focused BLACKMAN!

PHAShriner/1906 · #9 03-20-2005, 09:52 PM

Hotep Brothers. Queen Ladygreek, you are ever so WISE, BEAUTIFUL, and STRONG so please help me by not being so AMAZON-LIKE (I respect you being of DST and know that you are just exemplifying the UNIque Trait of such-ok?) Phillyinterest is a young BLACKMALE who is craving his BLACKNESS and the POWER and WONDER of such. Let us embrace him and invite him to STAY HOME. To do otherwise will give him the yearning to want to STRAY FROM HOME! Lighten up on him ok? You SELF-RELYING AMAZON QUEEN YOU!

ladygreek · #10 03-20-2005, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by PHAShriner/1906
Hotep Brothers. Queen Ladygreek, you are ever so WISE, BEAUTIFUL, and STRONG so please help me by not being so AMAZON-LIKE (I respect you being of DST and know that you are just exemplifying the UNIque Trait of such-ok?) Phillyinterest is a young BLACKMALE who is craving his BLACKNESS and the POWER and WONDER of such. Let us embrace him and invite him to STAY HOME. To do otherwise will give him the yearning to want to STRAY FROM HOME! Lighten up on him ok? You SELF-RELYING AMAZON QUEEN YOU!

I merely asked the question. What he said here seems contradictory to the other thread he started. In fact, his whole Alpha thing is started sounding contradictory and suspect. So now I wonder if he is a real, sincere poster or a troll.

PHAShriner/1906 · #11 03-20-2005, 10:42 PM

Hotep Brothers. Queen Ladygreek, I have respect for you. You have a QUEEN'S instinct & intuition, that I truly must acknowledge. DAMN! I hope you are wrong. Good catch and observation.

phillyinterest6 · #12 03-21-2005, 01:13 AM

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Originally posted by PHAShriner/1906
Hotep Brothers. Queen Ladygreek, I have respect for you. You have a QUEEN'S instinct & intuition, that I truly must acknowledge. DAMN! I hope you are wrong. Good catch and observation.

My other post about the big deal about dating white women has to do with the fact that because i am mixed i get alot of drama for it. Men in my family are not unfamiliar with dating and marrying white women, As i stated in both post i have dated white women also, as a whole they are not for me. I have dated two that may have worked out but i dont deny my african american hertiage andn the strength and power of black women. I am dating a black women and dont see myself with any other woman period right now white or black. I just didnt understand the big deal about it.

phillyinterest6 · #13 03-21-2005, 01:22 AM

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Originally posted by PHAShriner/1906
Hotep Brothers. Queen Ladygreek, I have respect for you. You have a QUEEN'S instinct & intuition, that I truly must acknowledge. DAMN! I hope you are wrong. Good catch and observation.

I just want you to know that im not here pulling anyone's leg, or being a "troll". The issues i talk about here are pure in nature and are not just a bunch of hog wash. I am who i say i am and feel what i say i feel. I appericate your guidance and your helping hand. I can assure you that im not playing any games. the post about dating white women had to do with a disccussion and somethings that were said to me. As i said earlier im with a NUBIAN QUEEN right now. I wont deny dating white women but i will always love and embrace my own hertiage. Although i am mixed i was always accpected my my African American brothers and sisters. It is only now that i am in college that i deal with a lot of drama. That does not deter me from being who i am and dating black women and realizing their strength. So please know that i am not "fake" or trying to mislead people. My journey towards Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity Inc. is something that is real and it's important to me. If and when i'm accpected into this brotherhood of intelligent, strong, and wise black men or past and present it will be a blessed day for me.

ThaBrickHouse · #14 03-21-2005, 02:11 AM

I find it quite interesting that you all would entertain such a topic on a public board. Wow

phillyinterest6 · #15 03-21-2005, 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by ThaBrickHouse
I find it quite interesting that you all would entertain such a topic on a public board. Wow

Personally i feel that your thinking is the thinking of many African Americans when it comes to touchy topics. No one wants to speak about them or discuss their feelings. We as a community need to learn to be more open. What better place to talk about such topics then on a public board where many feel more comfortable voicing their thoughts and get the chance to see how other people feel about "such a topic"