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Old 01-26-2005, 04:40 PM
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I did not know that.

Did you know that he might have been dreaming of a Parisian prostitute?
Yes. I have read his autobiography. He felt the Quakers were lovely people but got little out of organized religion.
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:06 PM
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Re: Did you know?!?!?

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It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a mess about having the 10 commandments on display or "In God We Trust" on our money and having God in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don't we just tell the 14% to Sit Down and SHUT UP!!! Or go back to their country to live.
Interesting. Since you are such an expert on how the founding fathers felt about these matters, why don't you tell us what Monroe had to say about allowing the opinion of the majority to fully override the rights of the minority?

The issue of religion among the founding fathers and early presidents is not as simplistic as this makes it out to be. Many of them were members of a church at one point in their life, but some left it or were only members for social reasons. Others, while belonging to a church, were freethinkers who did not agree with every teaching of their church. And, as pointed out, just because they were Christian does not in any way mean that they thought religion and the law should intermingle. The separation of church and state was written into the Constitution for a reason.

But hey, did you know . . .

-- that John Adams said, "This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it."?
-- that Ben Franklin said, "Lighthouses are more helpful then churches."?
-- that Thomas Jefferson said, "I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature" and "The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being of His Father, in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."?
-- that James Madison said, "During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution."?

and furthermore, did you know that if you wanted to kick every American who is NOT Christian out of the country, that list would include Abraham Lincoln, Albert Einstein, Ernest Hemingway, Helen Keller (gotta love Helen Keller -- oh, wait, wasn't she a socialist too?), Frank Lloyd Wright, Mark Twain, Robert Frost, Susan B. Anthony, William Howard Taft, Susan B. Anthony, Thomas Paine -- and on a slightly less serious note, Marlon Brando, Katherine Hepburn, Bill Gates (heh), Kurt Vonnegut, and Rob's brother?


*Side note! I have no idea how accurate all of the above facts are, because half of them I just ganked off websites. But I can guarantee that they are more accurate than the facts in the original post in this thread, because that would not be hard.
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:11 PM
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Did you know that "Dueling Banjos" isn't the National Anthem?!
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:13 PM
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:16 PM
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Look Munch, you wear your X I'll wear mine.
But I have to wear mine! I put it on my prom dress and everything.
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:23 PM
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Helen Keller (gotta love Helen Keller -- oh, wait, wasn't she a socialist too?)


no she was deaf, blind, and couldn't drive very well either.
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Old 01-26-2005, 07:51 PM
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I'd send your brother to Guam and make him pick pineapples for me until he believed in the good lord and your mom dated me exclusively.

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Old 01-26-2005, 07:56 PM
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[B]Interesting. Since you are such an expert on how the founding fathers felt about these matters, [B]

First off i believe i said this posting was sent to me in an email and at the end i was asking if anyone knew the accuracy of the historical facts that the author of the email(it was forwarded to me so it wasnt the person who sent it to me), thus I have never claimed to be an expert on how our founding fathers felt about such matters.


My purpose of posting this was to get a rise out of a few on this board and my goal has been accomplished I've also enjoyed reading everyone's repiles
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Old 01-26-2005, 07:59 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Did you know?!?!?

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First off i believe i said this posting was sent to me in an email and at the end i was asking if anyone knew the accuracy of the historical facts that the author of the email(it was forwarded to me so it wasnt the person who sent it to me), thus I have never claimed to be an expert on how our founding fathers felt about such matters.


My purpose of posting this was to get a rise out of a few on this board and my goal has been accomplished I've also enjoyed reading everyone's repiles
Yes, you've managed to embarass Christians and offend non-Christians. Congratulations, Mary, that's really loving of you. I'm sure Jesus would be very proud of your actions.

You now know that the email was a lie. In addition, here's some more material on the founding fathers, or at least one of them...

John Jay was an anti-Catholic bigot who sought the expulsion of all Catholics from the state of New York. How very Christian of him.
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Old 01-26-2005, 07:59 PM
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Did you know that Snopes.com is the bomb DOT com?

Did you know that I have been to the Supreme Court and what they say in their lecture is pretty much identical to what Snopes says?

Did you also know that nowhere in the Catholic catechism are we encouraged to promulgate lies on the interweb and embarass other members of our faith?

Did you know that every fourth email forward is a lie?

BOYCOTT INTOLERANCE!

Did you know that 95% of statistics are made up on the spot and 100% of Christians that I've talked to today agree with the seperation of church and state and all but one of them is rabidly pro-choice?

This is just my opinion. I'm only trying to piss off a select few, and I respect everyone else's opinion.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
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Old 01-26-2005, 08:01 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Did you know?!?!?

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My purpose of posting this was to get a rise out of a few on this board and my goal has been accomplished I've also enjoyed reading everyone's repiles
How very mature and classy of you!

Do you feel like a good Christian now?
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Old 01-26-2005, 08:04 PM
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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
When I read things like this, I fear for the future of our children.
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Old 01-26-2005, 08:05 PM
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Yes , yes i do thank you I'll mention this in my next confession.
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Old 01-26-2005, 08:06 PM
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Yes , yes i do thank you I'll mention this in my next confession.
would love to hear an explanation about how this thread makes you a good Christian!
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Old 01-26-2005, 08:08 PM
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When I read things like this, I fear for the future of our children.
And people wonder why there are so many people with strong feelings against the religious right.

This thread is just tacky.

It's not succeeding in making anyone think about their beliefs. Instead, it's creating a strong sense of dislike for the people who post these kinds of things.
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