Conservative Students vs. Liberal Profs

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by Coramoor
Why don't you hippies join a commune and leave the rest of us alone?

Oh noes. Do I need to reinstate "Hug an Angry Conservative" day? It was a big hit the first time, but I have so much else going on right now, including hemp production and patchouli application.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by valkyrie
Oh noes. Do I need to reinstate "Hug an Angry Conservative" day? It was a big hit the first time, but I have so much else going on right now, including hemp production and patchouli application.

Yes please. I just want to be able to hug my boyfriend and tell him that.

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Yes please. I just want to be able to hug my boyfriend and tell him that.

Am I a disgrace to hippies everywhere if I don't wear patchouli? Can I be a hippie and carry Louis Vuitton and Vera? Somehow I'm not sure if a sherbet Betsy with monogram is the right bag to carry when I go on commune interviews.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by valkyrie
Am I a disgrace to hippies everywhere if I don't wear patchouli? Can I be a hippie and carry Louis Vuitton and Vera? Somehow I'm not sure if a sherbet Betsy with monogram is the right bag to carry when I go on commune interviews.

I will carry my seaport navy Miller with monogram. I will wear my LaCoste perfume too.

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I will carry my seaport navy Miller with monogram. I will wear my LaCoste perfume too.

Okay, I'll wear my LaCoste polo when I visit communes, but I'll put a little I <3 Nader button over the alligator.

[sugar and spice]

The way I see it is once you're in college, you should be mature enough to deal with professors who may have different beliefs than your own. Put on your big kid pants and deal with it. This also goes for professors, of course. You should be allowed to have opinions but it isn't your job to indoctrinate anyone.

If a kid can back up his reasoning for why he thinks the U.S. should have been in Vietnam, he should get a good grade. And if he just wants to whine and say, "Well, any idiot knows they should have been there, you just gave me an F on this essay because you disagree" without using any justification to back that up -- well, I agree with the F.

I go to a school that is notoriously liberal, especially on the faculty side, but faculty members are not allowed to express political viewpoints in class. Of course, sometimes it's still obvious what they believe even if they're not up there saying "Bush is a monkey." And it's a frustrating policy, especially when I've been in classes where everybody is mature enough to discuss political issues without judging each other and the instructor is not allowed to weigh in.

I just kind of think this is something you have to deal with. We all know that teachers are liberal. If you don't want to deal with that, go to a conservative school. GeekyPenguin goes to a school where there are a number of conservative instructors and she's had her liberal views criticized by instructors in class. But she chose to go a religious university, she knew this was going to be an issue, she puts on her big kid pants and deals with it. If I decide to go into big business later in life, I'll have to deal with the fact that my higher-ups will probably tend to be conservatives. If I decide to move to Texas when I grow up, I'll have to live with the fact that many of my neighbors will be conservatives. It's hard for me to believe that if students know they're going to be THIS bothered by liberal professors, they don't look into schools with more conservative teachers earlier in the game.

Obviously nobody deserves to have their grade changed based on their beliefs if they show a grasp of the subject. But is that really always what's going on?

[AGDee]

I have also had profs who purposely made outrageous opinion statements to get people thinking about what they believe and WHY. So many people can't defend WHY they believe what they believe and I think profs can help you develop that level of critical thinking.

[AKA_Monet]

After my gulag of 8 years in the SDState University Penitentiary for Joint Doctoral program in Molecular Biology, I cannot believe the increase number of weiners (spelled whiners) as to why they deserve "A's" opposed to the grade they did deserve!

How can one fake the funk in Chemistry and Biology? Really?

Even as a TA, I spoke to a professor (liberal, conservative, whatever) about gettin' misery from students because I graded their dayum reports and gave them the grade they deserved... The professor told me, just ask them, to tell you what medical school they are accepted into and make sure you don't go to them...

I am incapable of comprehending how some kid who doesn't put effort into his or her science classes, then expect to go to med/vet/grad school? I cannot work. I don't care how liberal the professors are, you cannot fake that you know what you are talking about in math, physics, engineering, biology or chemistry... That's impossible... Too many solid facts that must be known so that one can excell...

My grad school university department was staunch ultra-kard, karryin' kind conservative as HAYLE. But, my folks entrenched up on me--when in Rome, do as the Romans... I had other things to contend with to. I had defend and justify myself, my brain, my thoughts, my values, etc. more than anyone else... But, I got through it with my Ph.D., so what's the problem?

I guess, that which doesn't kill you makes you stronger??? Or you just die of heart disease or cancer when your 50 years old...