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12-20-2004, 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by MysticCat81
The idea that F is pronounced "fee" or "fie" depending on whether vowels or whatever follow it is a Greek Urban legend that simply refuses to die. In Greek, F is always pronounced "fee." Always.
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Well, not always.
When F is followed by a vowel in groups using 2 letters, it's Fee. In three letter groups, when F is followed by a vowel and your badge is on the moon, it's pronounced Fye. But if Betty Crocker was a member of your group then it's Fee. If your ritual is in the library of congress, it's Fye again, except if one of your alumni was a high ranking elected official and used his/her connections to have it removed, in which case it's Fee.
My pizza guy delivers to the Greek Orthodox church and that's how he explained it to me.
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12-20-2004, 06:12 PM
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I've missed your sage presence around here, wptw! Very nice to see you again
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12-20-2004, 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by wptw
Well, not always.
When F is followed by a vowel in groups using 2 letters, it's Fee. In three letter groups, when F is followed by a vowel and your badge is on the moon, it's pronounced Fye. But if Betty Crocker was a member of your group then it's Fee. If your ritual is in the library of congress, it's Fye again, except if one of your alumni was a high ranking elected official and used his/her connections to have it removed, in which case it's Fee.
My pizza guy delivers to the Greek Orthodox church and that's how he explained it to me.
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thanks...i almost spit out my dinner!!!!
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12-20-2004, 07:00 PM
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thanks...i almost spit out my dinner!!!!
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Why? It's the truth!!
I heard if from a depledged high school dropout at Jiffy Lube.
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12-20-2004, 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by wptw
Well, not always.
When F is followed by a vowel in groups using 2 letters, it's Fee. In three letter groups, when F is followed by a vowel and your badge is on the moon, it's pronounced Fye. But if Betty Crocker was a member of your group then it's Fee. If your ritual is in the library of congress, it's Fye again, except if one of your alumni was a high ranking elected official and used his/her connections to have it removed, in which case it's Fee.
My pizza guy delivers to the Greek Orthodox church and that's how he explained it to me.
wptw
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LOL
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12-21-2004, 12:38 AM
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Hrm...
The only letters I've seen with alternate pronunciations are X and F, according to new member charts that show Greek letters and their pronunciations (from various GLO's).
And I've always heard that it was based on what letter came *before* the letter in question. For example, it is Alpha Xi Delta with a "Zee" sound because the letter X is preceded by a vowel. So it makes sense that Alpha Phi would be "Fee," Gamma Phi Beta would be "Feye," and Theta Xi would be "Zeye."
My only question is this:
Is Alpha Epsilon Phi with a "Fee" or "Feye" sound? By that one always confused, I am.
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12-21-2004, 12:46 AM
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Alpha Phi may be Alpha Fee, but Alpha Phi Alpha is Alpha FYE Alpha.
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12-21-2004, 12:51 AM
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Originally posted by Taualumna
Alpha Phi may be Alpha Fee, but Alpha Phi Alpha is Alpha FYE Alpha.
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Maybe there's another "rule" that if it is sandwiched by two vowels it is "FYE" and not FEE?
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12-21-2004, 04:38 AM
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12-21-2004, 07:33 AM
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That's why I love you so much, S!
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12-21-2004, 10:37 AM
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so
is it fee fi foe fum, OR fi fee foe fum?
for the alpha xi delta,
it is pronounced alpha epsilon fye(rhymes with pie)
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12-21-2004, 11:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by wptw
Well, not always. . . . My pizza guy delivers to the Greek Orthodox church and that's how he explained it to me.
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I stand corrected, chastened and, as always, awed. I can only plead misunderstanding because the way your pizza guy explained it isn't how Colin Ferrell did it in "Alexander."
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12-21-2004, 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by bekibug
And I've always heard that it was based on what letter came *before* the letter in question. For example, it is Alpha Xi Delta with a "Zee" sound because the letter X is preceded by a vowel. So it makes sense that Alpha Phi would be "Fee," Gamma Phi Beta would be "Feye," and Theta Xi would be "Zeye."
My only question is this:
Is Alpha Epsilon Phi with a "Fee" or "Feye" sound? By that one always confused, I am.
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From whom did you hear this?
Well, since you asked, the rule for 3 letter groups is as follows…
Vowel - letter - Consonant = “eee”
Consonant - letter - Consonant = “eye”
Vowel - letter - Vowel = “Marvin”
Consonant - letter - Vowel = “Boogabooga”
That’s why AXD is Alpha Zeee Delta, while GFB is Gamma Pheye Beta.
AFA is Alpha Marvin Alpha, and DKE is Delta Boogabooga Epsilon.
By that explanation, confused, you should no longer be, young jedi.
wptw
Seriously folks, repeat it softly to yourselves a few times: Pronunciation has nothing to do with preceding or succeeding letters. Some groups like to use the Anglicized pronunciations. Some groups prefer the original Greek pronunciations. Simple as that. Tell your friends. Tell your nanny.
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12-21-2004, 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by Taualumna
I was told that the REAL Greek pronunciation of phi is fee, which is why Alpha Phi is Alpha FEE. If Gamma Phi was founded on the same campus, then why is Gamma Phi Beta, Gamma FYE Beta?
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Because we are better and it sounds better.
DUH.
I've heard that if your GLO was founded at Rutgers you don't have any manners on the interweb. Why is this? I am still learning my RGLO terminology.
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12-22-2004, 02:34 AM
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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I've heard that if your GLO was founded at Rutgers you don't have any manners on the interweb. Why is this? I am still learning my RGLO terminology.
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It's because Rutgers banned the color pink. Those who are not exposed to pink on a regular basis lack manners on the interweb because they lack the vital pheremones that make people happy. All you need to know to understand RGLOs is that there is no "p-i-n-k" in their lives. If you see the word "pink" referenced by someone in a RGLO they really mean "I wish I went to school somewhere else."
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