U. of Michigan Sorority Will Press Charges

[ISUKappa]

I don't know how Delta Delta Delta's House Corporation is set up, but if the individual chapter house is owned by the local House Corp, it would most likely be them who would be pressing charges.

[sugar and spice]

Maybe I'm reading too far between the lines here, but it sounds like some of the girls may have gotten sexually assaulted or harassed or things other than the composite were stolen. The article implies that there was more going on than just composite-stealing.

While composite-"borrowing" is pretty common on my campus, breaking and entering in order to do it is not. If the girls feel unsafe by the circumstances surrounding this prank, I definitely agree with pressing charges. You have to send a message about what's okay -- and if stealing composites is okay but breaking into the house to do it is not, then by all means press charges. Otherwise, what's next?

And yes, ISUKappa, I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by ISUKappa
I don't know how Delta Delta Delta's House Corporation is set up, but if the individual chapter house is owned by the local House Corp, it would most likely be them who would be pressing charges.

So it's alums?

-Rudey

[ISUKappa]

Originally posted by Rudey
So it's alums?

-Rudey

Again, I can't speak for Delta Delta Delta, but our House Board/House Corporation is comprised of alumnae volunteers. It would be the alumnae acting on behalf of the House Corporation, which is its own legal entity.

[jharb]

Composite borrowing is something that happens pretty regularly here on campus and the proper procedure is to have your chapter president e-mail the other chapters president so that we know the composite will be taken and to expect it. Also so we know where the composite is.

If someone didn't follow procedure or broke in I would hope that they would be prosecuted simply because procedure is there for a reason. Also generally it is harder to take the sorority composites because of alarms or door codes. We did have an instance when I was a freshman when a fraternity pledge broke into our house and charges were pressed. Alcohol was involved but we still pressed charges to show we weren't impressed by the so-called prank. People felt unsafe and wanted to move out because of the incident. In that case the girl whose room was entered illegally pressed charges because some of her things were stolen.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally posted by sugar and spice
Maybe I'm reading too far between the lines here, but it sounds like some of the girls may have gotten sexually assaulted or harassed or things other than the composite were stolen. The article implies that there was more going on than just composite-stealing.

I interpreted the article the way you did. It seems that the men were there for more than just the composites.

If men broke into my home through a bathroom window at 4 AM when I was in college, I would have been terrified. I'd be terrified if it happened now.

[TSteven]

Originally posted by jharb
Composite borrowing is something that happens pretty regularly here on campus and the proper procedure is to have your chapter president e-mail the other chapters president so that we know the composite will be taken and to expect it. Also so we know where the composite is.

While there wasn't anything official at UK that I know of, getting approval and some sort of "inside help" - usually from the chapter president or social chair - was the norm "way back when".

Often, it was the sorority's House Mother who would be in on it and the one to help out. I recall that one time, a chapter's composite was "borrowed" and it was hidden in the House Mother's room/apartment until it could be sneaked out.

In any case, the idea was that you would leave some sort of clue - maybe a beverage holder with your letters on it near by, or a note with a clue - and the sorority chapter would then come to your house and serenade you to get it back. Usually, the women would be invited in for an "impromptu" mixer. Then with a lot of pomp and ceremony, the composite would be returned.

[DeltAlum]

Just to get back on track, the charges aren't really about "borrowing" composites, but rather about breaking and entering and broaching the security at a sorority house.

Whoever is filing the charges -- chapter or house corp -- is doing the correct thing in my opinion. To let this kind of thing slide sets a very dangerous precedent.

[imsohappythatiama]

Please also keep in mind that another chapter on UM's campus was broken into earlier this week (before the TChi/DDD incident) in a similar way--a burglar who has not been identified came up the fire escape and broke in though a window, stealing $2,000 in cash and several laptops (reportedly).

So "break-ins" on this campus are being taken seriously right now, as they should be. I'm not saying the two incidents are related....but you can imagine why people are on high-alert.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
Just to get back on track, the charges aren't really about "borrowing" composites, but rather about breaking and entering and broaching the security at a sorority house.

Whoever is filing the charges -- chapter or house corp -- is doing the correct thing in my opinion. To let this kind of thing slide sets a very dangerous precedent.

Perhaps related to this. What would happen if a fraternity came to kidnap a composite and the chapter enjoyed that sorta thing and didn't file charges, but it was the house corp and alums that wanted to? Has this happened before?

-Rudey

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by Rudey
Perhaps related to this. What would happen if a fraternity came to kidnap a composite and the chapter enjoyed that sorta thing and didn't file charges, but it was the house corp and alums that wanted to? Has this happened before?

Good question. I don't know if it ever has happened. In Delt, a couple of the undergraduate officers of most chapters either sit on or attend the House Corp meetings, and I suspect some accomodation could be met if there was a disagreement.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
Good question. I don't know if it ever has happened. In Delt, a couple of the undergraduate officers of most chapters either sit on or attend the House Corp meetings, and I suspect some accomodation could be met if there was a disagreement.

I have a suspicion that fraternities and sororities different and that alums for sororities probably get more say...

-Rudey

[AGDee]

I got more information from someone "in the know" on campus who actually gets the police reports and she said that the police were called before they knew who had broken in, the boys ran from the police and one, when caught, assaulted a police officer.

Overall, this was a case poor judgment which escalated to an extreme situation. I have to say, if I was in bed and heard someone breaking into a bathroom near me, I would call the police also, rather than getting up to see who it was.

[honeychile]

Originally posted by AGDee
I have to say, if I was in bed and heard someone breaking into a bathroom near me, I would call the police also, rather than getting up to see who it was.

And you would be using the proper response!

I know that I'm a little too much into the whole crime thing, but in case y'all never heard it, Ted Bundy was never apprehended for breaking & entering or murdering - he was always caught on a (poor) driving charge. Even after he killed the two and assaulted two other sorority members in Florida. You can't play it "too safe"!

[Stacekat]

Originally posted by Rudey
I have a suspicion that fraternities and sororities different and that alums for sororities probably get more say...

-Rudey

As a former Corp. President and Alum of that chapter, yes our organization does allow for a member to be present and discuss chapter needs. The theft thing has NEVER been taken likely at the campus I advise. We have had our original charter stolen and multiple composites stolen. As collegiates and Alums we both agree that this is not OK. I think Alums get far more upset about it than the collegiates. However, we do take the imput of the collegiates into consideration. But the housing corp has the final say. Also, our housing corp does not need to be made up of Alumnae. It can be parents, friends, whoever. It is the job of the housing corp to protect the best interests of the members as well as the house. Safety first!

The chapter I advise now is on the west coast and things here are vastly different than at other schools. I attended a large mid-western school with a strong greek presence. "Borrowing" composites there was perfectly acceptible. However, at the school I advise now, that is not the case. Most of the time the composites are somehow damaged. They are not returned in original condition. They are not taken knowingly.