What Discretion Means to Me...

[chickenlittle]

I like this one!!!

The four necessary workshops or courses I would say:

1) Confidentiality 101

2) Teamwork 101

3) Humbleness 303 (upperlevel)

4) Public Service 303 (upperlevel)

These courses should be prerequisites for anyone interested in joining any of the Divine Nine orgs.

[Rain Man]

I said this before on another thread, but in case you missed it, here it is again:

In the spirit of Robert Egan's book "From Here to Fraternity", which discusses everything about Greek life, and what to expect, from rushing, to bids, to pledging, to initiation, and beyond, we as Black Greeks need to publish a book that corresponds to Black Greek life (Note: while From Here to Fraternity discusses about Black Greek life, it is NOWHERE near to the degree as he discusses NIC and NPC orgs culture--plus the book is about 20 years out of date to boot).
I say this because despite the Internet having good tidbits on Black Greeks, it is EXTREMELY naive for us to assume that everyone is going to know the ins and outs on Black Greek culture, and with the anonymous nature of the Internet, the credibility and authenticity of those doing the postings on what Greek life is and isn't is at best questionable. A hard-bound book at least lends itself some credibility.

Preaching discretion does no good if freshmen do not know the purpose or reasons behind it in the first place and no one bothers to tell them because "it's a given"

We have the book "The Divine Nine" (BTW, I hate that term). Let's get a book called "Crossing The Burning Sands" (or something to that effect).

What do yall think?

Match Game '73

[12dn94dst]

I think you did a good job of giving the reasons why I asked "If you could a design a workshop/seminar to prepare others for their journey to Deltaland, that is from the firm decision of "I want to be a Delta" to Initiation, what topics would you include & why?"

Looking forward to more workshop/seminar ideas...



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[Salience]

Originally posted by 12dn94dst:
Cool Beans! Thanks for your feedback!

OH! Salience, you wanted to know how the poem ties into all this. What I see it to mean is if you think carefully about what you're going to say/type before you do, you'll benefit in the long run. Which brings to mind another good question for my next seminar , but I'll save it.

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okay, thank you! And I agree about thinking before typing, because I learned THAt lesson myself!

[Kimmie1913]

Originally posted by chickenlittle:
I like this one!!!

The four necessary workshops or courses I would say:

1) Confidentiality 101

2) Teamwork 101

3) Humbleness 303 (upperlevel)

4) Public Service 303 (upperlevel)

These courses should be prerequisites for anyone interested in joining any of the Divine Nine orgs.

YOu hit tat right on the head for me. ALthough I might require COnfidentiality 201 and 302 and Teamwork 101 and 102. Somethings you definitely have to bring to the table for yourself and if discretion, teamwork and the ability to keep it to your self are not part of your personal makeup before getting on line, no matter what the process you probably won;t learn them along the way.

Also some indication of the need for thoughtful reflection on WHY you want to join an org. ANy org at all and a specific org in particular. It sould not be joining to join, or joing to belong. It should not be about being seen or social or stepping or the center of atteniton. It should be about something much,m much deeper. No one should have to tell you what that should be. It is like lve- when you know, you know and you won;t have to ask.

Also, I would stress that joing a BGLO is like a JOB. It is WORK to get in and it is MORE WORK once you are in. Fraternity/Sorority business is BUSINESS and that's that.

Okay< I think that is enough for a mini course not just a seminar!

[snoopy922]

Originally posted by VctoriasSecrt:
I'd add Confidence 202, Purpose 303 and Respect 404 to that too...

I'd also like to add

Perseverance 111 (Hey, I'm 11 club!) :O)
Truth 230

[RedAngel]

I would like to add
Staying Financial 301 and Project Management 310.
Snoopy-I'm also a part of 11 club.

Kelli,

Again, what a wonderful topic. You bring up an important subject that everyone (regardless of GLO affiliation) should keep in mind...not only on these boards, but in everyday life. I hope we all can benefit from this topic.

Sandy

I have some courses for everyone...

Protocol 101, 201, 301, 401
I think as some of us get older we tend to forget we represent our organizations 24/7.

Time Management 101

Chapter Management 101

Relationship 101 (keep chapter business out of bedroom business whether as a member or potential member and your frat/soror's partner is off limits).

Greek Unity 101 and 102 (for before and after you cross)

[Salience]

I have a GREAT discretion story!

I was chattign with an undergrad about general stuff, and we saw a flier for a certain sorority, and I asked if she was interested (nosy, I know) in ANY sorority. She replied that her mom wanted her to be interested in HER sorority, but she wasn't sure. The only thing I said was that, if she wanted to do something, she should really try in undergrad, because it becomes more difficult for alumnae interest.

She and her neos just had their show recently, and talk about floored but proud! I was feeling bad, too, because I knew the line was going to be presented, soon, and I was thinking, "dag, she's a junior now, she may have problems next year!" LOL@myself.

I was so proud of her, I had to let her know; now the purchase has to be made, but I know what I'm going to get her.

Originally posted by 12dn94dst:
Greetings Everyone!

I was reading e-mail today (big shock) and came across 2 e-mails from 2 different GC regulars asking that I checkout a certain thread on this board. I said to myself "Oh Goodness, what kind of heck has broken loose this time?" I'm not going to call out which thread it was nor will I disclose what the content of the thread was. What I WILL do, however, is ask my interested sisterfriends & brotherfriends of ANY of the NPHC organizations, and my newly initiated (fall 2k and spring 2k+1) NPHC peeps to share what discretion means to them and also how discretion relates to the internet. Those who crossed before fall 2000 may share their opinions as well.

We throw the word "discretion" around quite often, but I just want to know if there's a real understanding of what it means. This is not an attempt to make anyone feel self-conscious or apologetic. Hopefully this exercise will help ALL of us determine what areas we need to work on as interested parties and as members.

I look forward to reading everyone's comments.

Kelli

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In my opinion discretion means being careful or mindful of ones actions, statements and questions. It means carrying one's self in a manner that does not elude to ones intention to obtain a goal. In this particular case the goal would be obtaining membership in a sorority. Discretion is someting that should be practiced if for no other reason but for self protection. There are lots of spiteful, vendictive, venemous individuals in this world and they are not always easily identified. If everyone that was interested in joining a BGLO (or ANY organization for that matter) told everyone they knew about their interest, somewhere along the line someone is bound to "throw salt in the prospectives game" Why take that risk? Say only what is necessary only to whom it is necessary to say it to.
End of Story

And the quotes for the topic are:

Under all speech that is good for anything there lies a silence that is better. Silence is deep as Eternity; speech is shallow as Time.
Thomas Carlyle (1795 - 1881)

Discretion is being able to raise your eyebrow instead of your voice. (unknown)

Well-timed silence hath more eloquence than speech.
Martin Fraquhar Tupper

[CrimsonTide4]

Necessary Workshops

Humility 101, 202, 303, 404,620 & INTERNSHIP

Minding Your Own Business 101, 202, 303, 404, INTERNSHIP

Research Skills 101, 202, 303, 404, INDEPENDENT STUDY

Don't Take It Personal: How to Handle Constructive Criticism 101, 202, 303, 404, THESIS, INTERNSHIP

Capitalization, Grammar, Composition & Other E-mail Etiquette Tips 101, 202, 303, THESIS

[Ideal08]

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4:
Necessary Workshops

Humility 101, 202, 303, 404,620 & INTERNSHIP

Minding Your Own Business 101, 202, 303, 404, INTERNSHIP

Research Skills 101, 202, 303, 404, INDEPENDENT STUDY

Don't Take It Personal: How to Handle Constructive Criticism 101, 202, 303, 404, THESIS, INTERNSHIP

Capitalization, Grammar, Composition & Other E-mail Etiquette Tips 101, 202, 303, THESIS

LMAO!!! Go 'head Miss English!!!

[equeen]

Greetings to the ladies of Delta Sigma Theta, and all other posters.

My perspective on discretion:

The most difficult challenge with respect to discretion occurred after I initiated. Two of my closest friends had become Candidates, and were facing a challenge that caused them to question every aspect of their reasons for persuing sisterhood with my sorority. It was a difficult challenge, but it was up to them to resolve it.

They assumed (because of our friendship) that I would be forthcoming about specific details relating to their challenge, and in fact resolve it for them. They were hurt, puzzled, and seeking some kind of equilibrium, because I remained tight-lipped. I knew they were questioning my loyalty as a friend, because of my reticence.

If only they knew...

...but then, part of candidate education is to learn to have faith and trust in those who may be their future Sisters, whether they are your best friends or veritable strangers.

Moral of the story: Most of all, be most aware and careful of the need for discretion closest to home. It can seem to be a hurtful situation...but if there is trust, and discretion, things will become right.


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[Monique]

easy....KEEP YA MOUTH CLOSEEEEEE..nuff said