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Old 12-02-2004, 04:55 PM
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In my opinion, if I were these girls -- hey, this girl who depledged has already established herself as the type of person who has no qualms about telling on you when you break the rules
Should she have had qualms about saying something to the police about the alcohol given to the pledges? No...she depledged because of the incident and it was because of the harrassment that she mentioned the drinking to the police.

I see nothing wrong in what she did and I admire her for sticking to her beliefs. She felt uncomfortable and depledged. She souldn't be looked at as "type of person who has no qualms about telling on you when you break the rules".

It's called having a brain and she chose to use hers.
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Old 12-02-2004, 05:27 PM
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. . . does it matter if it was held off-campus? I just ask b/c I'm not really sure about the exact rules. I guess it would depend on whether the sleepover was considered an "event" for the sorority?

Where the wine was being supplied I don't think it the most relevant here... (of course I am probably wrong! ), I think what matters most is that a young woman felt uncomfortable, so she decided to leave the chapter, and 2 of the other new members made a point to harass her.
texas*princess, I agree that "where" the alcohol was provided is not the most important thing here. I only mentioned the location because in a previous post I had quoted a U. of Colorado Greek policy forbidding functions with alcohol in fraternity or sorority houses, and had said that "IF" the sleepover was in the house (which it wasn't, according to my reading of the new details) that would be a policy violation.
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Old 12-02-2004, 05:28 PM
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I see nothing wrong in what she did and I admire her for sticking to her beliefs. She felt uncomfortable and depledged. She souldn't be looked at as "type of person who has no qualms about telling on you when you break the rules".
No one is criticizing her, they're saying if she wasn't afraid to stick up for herself before she certainly isn't going to be afraid to do it now. I.E. the sisters were stupid to pick on her.
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Old 12-02-2004, 05:30 PM
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Gotcha...I read it a different way!
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Old 12-02-2004, 07:44 PM
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texas*princess, I agree that "where" the alcohol was provided is not the most important thing here. I only mentioned the location because in a previous post I had quoted a U. of Colorado Greek policy forbidding functions with alcohol in fraternity or sorority houses, and had said that "IF" the sleepover was in the house (which it wasn't, according to my reading of the new details) that would be a policy violation.
Yea I totally understand ... I just wasn't sure if the location mattered if that would be a risk management issue according to bylaws (of the sorority) or whatnot. I think I am probably thinking more of the National org. side rather than the police side.

Like if the function did include minors and was supposed to be an "event" for the chapter. I believe most all NPCs forbid alcohol at "events" unless it is provided by a third-party vendor. If the sleepover was supposed to be an "event" - regardless if it was at the sorority house or someone's apartment - they could have possibly been in violation of those types of rules.

By "event" I mean a function the chapter is going to participate in that is a part of their event calendar.
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Old 12-03-2004, 01:38 AM
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Sometimes I really think that the drinking water in Boulder is laced with LSD or crack or something.
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Old 12-03-2004, 10:34 AM
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Sometimes I really think that the drinking water in Boulder is laced with LSD or crack or something.
You're not alone in that thought.
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Old 12-03-2004, 10:47 AM
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Sometimes I really think that the drinking water in Boulder is laced with LSD or crack or something.
So that explains why I felt so good after lunch when I was visiting.
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Old 12-16-2004, 03:47 PM
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Westword, an "alternative newspaper" in Denver, has a long cover story on this incident in its new (December 16, 2004) issue:

http://www.westword.com/issues/curre...s/feature.html

It's a feature story with lots of quotes, more details than most of the previous articles have included, and an obvious point of view.
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Old 12-16-2004, 09:57 PM
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wow that article was interesting. i am surprised they printed so much from the apology letters. they sounded pretty insincere and rehearsed to me.
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:51 AM
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that article was incredible. i really liked the last line, about words not meaning that much. its really powerfull and praise the author. i do think it is interesting, the letters of appology from the 2 girls. I this they both sound illiterate and i hope not an example of the fine scholarly work done at such an intitution. It really makes me not want to associate with people like that. i really hope that lily finds good friends who will support her.
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:58 AM
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wow that article was interesting. i am surprised they printed so much from the apology letters. they sounded pretty insincere and rehearsed to me.
Tell me about it. We've seen all the LifeTime Moment of Truth movies -- no one's ever that apologetic and sincere anymore.
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Old 01-02-2005, 04:15 PM
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that article was incredible. i really liked the last line, about words not meaning that much. its really powerfull and praise the author. i do think it is interesting, the letters of appology from the 2 girls. I this they both sound illiterate and i hope not an example of the fine scholarly work done at such an intitution. It really makes me not want to associate with people like that. i really hope that lily finds good friends who will support her.
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co-sign.
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