Please, A Kappa Viewpoint?, A BGLO Viewpoint?

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by MadeNupe8
I don't even see the point of HBCU's around today.

Now this is scary.

[allsmiles_22]

Originally posted by MadeNupe8
This is not a black world and it never will be.... Black people love to compete and so happen compete within each other. I don't even see the point of HBCU's around today.

And the difference between HBCUs and BGLOs (for example the one you are in) is?

Originally posted by ladygreek
Now this is scary.

Not just scary but funny how the same argument is given by some white greeks as to why BGLOs exist today.

[MadeNupe8]

The Difference is When I go for a job interview and my resume says Hampton and the other person says Michigan and we're both applying for a Engineering Job. I don't think Hamptons Engineering Program is in the top 5. Michigans is though.


Today, Kids at HBCU's are convinced they are competing against other HBCU's for jobs and not across the globe. HBCU's were established for what reason? Aren't those days over? Or do we still have to brain wash our black kids these days that the white man is holding us down?

The United States is 75% White, 11% Black. You do the math.

[allsmiles_22]

Originally posted by MadeNupe8
The Difference is When I go for a job interview and my resume says Hampton and the other person says Michigan and we're both applying for a Engineering Job. I don't think Hamptons Engineering Program is in the top 5. Michigans is though.


Today, Kids at HBCU's are convinced they are competing against other HBCU's for jobs and not across the globe. HBCU's were established for what reason? Aren't those days over? Or do we still have to brain wash our black kids these days that the white man is holding us down?

The United States is 75% White, 11% Black. You do the math.

Not true. I attended a PWI and upon graduation I had a job with one of the then Big 5 accounting firms. They heavily recruited at my school every semester. I had friends who attended Howard and guess who was there every semester too? Yup, those same firms and my friends had the same job offers. Look at this thread http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...threadid=57394 and you can see the same discussion about law schools.

I see that you are emphasizing the career aspect of HBCUs, but what about the other aspects of why people choose to attend HBCUs? Is that your only basis as to why HBCUs are unnecessary?

[20PearlGirl]

Originally posted by MadeNupe8
The Difference is When I go for a job interview and my resume says Hampton and the other person says Michigan and we're both applying for a Engineering Job. I don't think Hamptons Engineering Program is in the top 5. Michigans is though.


Today, Kids at HBCU's are convinced they are competing against other HBCU's for jobs and not across the globe. HBCU's were established for what reason? Aren't those days over? Or do we still have to brain wash our black kids these days that the white man is holding us down?

The United States is 75% White, 11% Black. You do the math.

MadeNupe,

I understand what you are saying in a way, but I find that graduates of HBCU's are just as qualified as those students of PWI's. You must also remember that alot of the quantitative parameters that are used to evaluate institutions of higher learning are based on a system that is intrinsicially racist, so there is really no way to make a objective comparison.




Would you feel the same way about the founding of some of the BGLO's on Howard's campus had you become a member of a fraternity other than KAPsi or A Phi A? I guess the world will never know.

[20PearlGirl]

MadeNupe8

Your profile says you are pursuing a career in entertainment.

Now, if you happened upon Antoine Fuqua, F. Gary Gray and John Singleton (aside from him being a Kappa), ...

...and you also happened upon Gary Marshall, Ron Howard, and Brett Rattner, which group would you feel more like to give you an opportunity?

Just asking

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by MadeNupe8
The Difference is When I go for a job interview and my resume says Hampton and the other person says Michigan and we're both applying for a Engineering Job. I don't think Hamptons Engineering Program is in the top 5. Michigans is though.


Today, Kids at HBCU's are convinced they are competing against other HBCU's for jobs and not across the globe. HBCU's were established for what reason? Aren't those days over? Or do we still have to brain wash our black kids these days that the white man is holding us down?

The United States is 75% White, 11% Black. You do the math.

My daughter had Howard on her resume and she had offers up the yang yang--in Minnesota even!

So do you feel it is wrong for Kappa to have chapters at HBCUs since it is so divisive?

[MadeNupe8]

20 pearl. How are you? Charter member of my chapter told me he had John Singletons number. I haven't seen it yet. I work for a film company in DC where whites own it. I am the only Black person in there. They are the only one who has given me an opportunity. I won't talk about how I have emailed Spike Lee's Brother and asked him did he need any help on his films. Haven't heard from him. I emailed this Film company and immediately they wanted me to come in and start. For F. Gary Gray, I hope to work with him one day, but not for the simple fact that he is black, but for the simple fact to learn his directing skills and to formulate my own. Ron Howard is a genious so I can't wait to work with him either. I think it would be very racist if John Singleton or F Gary Gray looked at me and said they were going to hire me because I'm black. Don't you? After all wouldn't your employer (Just say he is white) be racist if he looked at someone competing for the job with you was white and based on that he hired the other person because he/she is white. To answer your question based on what has happened thus far in the industry I think Ron Howard would hire me first. I am going out to L.A. Who hired me for the shoot out there? Surely no one that is black.

[MadeNupe8]

Nah, I don't think so. An organization at a HBCU like Kappa is great for black men to teach them how to achieve.

[MadeNupe8]

Kappa is a lifestyle not an attribute. The way us Kappas talk, walk, and act is Kappa. I never wanted to be anything else. Nor did I go to any other's information sessions. I knew I wanted to be a Kappa and I knew that my lifestyle was paralell to my founders.

[20PearlGirl]

Originally posted by MadeNupe8
20 pearl. How are you? Charter member of my chapter told me he had John Singletons number. I haven't seen it yet. I work for a film company in DC where whites own it. I am the only Black person in there. They are the only one who has given me an opportunity. I won't talk about how I have emailed Spike Lee's Brother and asked him did he need any help on his films. Haven't heard from him. I emailed this Film company and immediately they wanted me to come in and start. For F. Gary Gray, I hope to work with him one day, but not for the simple fact that he is black, but for the simple fact to learn his directing skills and to formulate my own. Ron Howard is a genious so I can't wait to work with him either. I think it would be very racist if John Singleton or F Gary Gray looked at me and said they were going to hire me because I'm black. Don't you? After all wouldn't your employer (Just say he is white) be racist if he looked at someone competing for the job with you was white and based on that he hired the other person because he/she is white. To answer your question based on what has happened thus far in the industry I think Ron Howard would hire me first. I am going out to L.A. Who hired me for the shoot out there? Surely no one that is black.

Hmm, ok you win.

[PrettyGirl03]

Originally posted by MadeNupe8
This is not a black world and it never will be. I think it was great for them to travel and go to another institution. I think they paved the way for blacks attending traditional white institutions today, especially males. Black people love to compete and so happen compete within each other. I don't even see the point of HBCU's around today. Blacks will distinguish each other and always have been. Let me give you a few examples, BET which is owned by whites, Viacom. Radio One, Kathleen Hughes, but has whites running things. Thats not how Dr. Martin Luther King (not a member of Kappa Alpha Psi) and other black activist were pushing towards. They wanted INtergration not Segregation.

Interesting. One could easily say they don't see the point of creating KAPsi when APhiA was already in existence.

And if you truly feel that blacks "compete" with one another, why did you choose KAPsi over Alpha...considering they both were founded at a white institution, and even more astounding, Alpha was founded at a more prestigious white institution?

How did you become the spokesperson for ALL black people? I never knew we had one that could speak for EVERY member of our race. Are you psychic?

[PrettyGirl03]

Originally posted by MadeNupe8
Kappa is a lifestyle not an attribute. The way us Kappas talk, walk, and act is Kappa. I never wanted to be anything else. Nor did I go to any other's information sessions. I knew I wanted to be a Kappa and I knew that my lifestyle was paralell to my founders.

Kappa is a fraternity, dude. Nothing more or less.

[MadeNupe8]

Prettygirl03 Do your research on A phi A. The only thing Greek about A PHI A is their letters. I'm not saying that because I am a Kappa. You can go on the internet and find that out. Like I said before because obviously we are not reading (Something a lot of black folk don't do). I never wanted to be anything else. Before I even went to college I asked myself how do you know where you are in life if you have never achieved anything. What does everyone use as a scale to find out where they are in life. THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS. Q's believe in perservering. You can do that all your life and never achieve what your perservering in and pretty you know that. I went to college and came across an organization that I wanted to be a part of and they were even suspended at the time. There were no Kappa's nor Kappa activity on my yard Since 92. It was strictly the organizations principles and purpose that I decided to pursue it. It coincided with what I had already believed in and promoting before I went to college. Look how Q's act and look how Kappa's act. We are naturally smooth and generous. We don't hop around and bark like dogs. Majority, if not all of A PHI A's founders defied what true men are. Kappa Alpha Psi, yes is just a fraternity, but the men that uphold and carry on the principles of Kappa is so much more. Like I said before Kappa is not a attribute, but a lifestyle. Kappa's are chosen in the womb, not at interest meetings. I really have a lack of respect for AKA's who are taken these large lines of 90 and 80 people. Is all about money(numbers)? or true sisterhood?

[MadeNupe8]

If you look at me as if I am speaking for all black people, thanks, but that's not what I am doing. I am saying what is real and what people are scared to say. I am not the only who feels this way Greek and Non-Greek. I am just someone bold enough to say it on a message board or in someone's face, but not with a nasty attitude or harsh feelings.