Attitude of Students @ Your School Toward Sorority Rush

[IvySpice]

we (all the sororities) based our GPA cuts on the PNMs' high school GPAs.

How did you do this at such a selective school? I'm surprised that any PNM's had high school records that were less than stellar.

[Tom Earp]

Actually, this is not just a NIC But and NIC, NHPC or a MHTC post.

So, what is the idea if any for Members of the Greek Community to turn the figures around.

The problem is not each posters alone but all of ours. How do We as Greeks Change The Perception?

Maybe go outside the box for recruiting?

Hello, art thou in a rut?

This is the way We have always done it? Why not change? Dont be The In We are the ones, dont pretend to be the ones?

You are not part of the Crowd, get more interested in being the Crowd! The people who do things.

Show what you do, be high profile and ask others to join in.

Charity Events are great for profile!

[aephi alum]

Originally posted by IvySpice
How did you do this at such a selective school? I'm surprised that any PNM's had high school records that were less than stellar.

Very few, if any, freshman PNMs were cut for grades. We all established minimum HS GPAs anyway.

My school has now gone to deferred recruitment. The first semester of your freshman year is pass/no record (if you get a C or better, you pass, otherwise there's no record you ever took the course). I believe that grade-related cuts for freshmen are now based on how many courses they passed during their first semester.

I know people with stellar HS records who nonetheless failed most or all of their freshman classes. From that standpoint, maybe deferred rush is better, because there is real college experience to base a GPA decision on, and you don't end up in a situation where a new member comes in on the strength of her HS GPA, gets initiated (no one holds for grades anymore), then just can't make grades.

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by aephi alum
I know people with stellar HS records who nonetheless failed most or all of their freshman classes. From that standpoint, maybe deferred rush is better, because there is real college experience to base a GPA decision on, and you don't end up in a situation where a new member comes in on the strength of her HS GPA, gets initiated (no one holds for grades anymore), then just can't make grades.

This is one of the reasons I agree with Deferred Recruitment. Doing well in HS is completely different from doing well in college--especially during the first semester.

[KappaKittyCat]

Originally posted by IvySpice
My school is a sub-variant of the second group. Sororities are unrecognized and unhoused, so many students are only dimly aware that they exist. If a Greek's affiliation comes up in conversation with a non-Greek, she'll almost apoligize for it ("Yeah, I'm in Delta Gamma -- it's not really like a sorority though, we mostly do charity fundraisers and stuff.") Most women wouldn't rush if their lives depended on it because sororities are seen as anti-feminist, absurdly backwards, and generally counter to what the university is about. The culture of the school is that in your free time you ought to be writing speeches for Hillary Clinton or composing symphonies or starting up a dot-com, not (shocked, contemptuous stare) rushing a sorority.

IvySpice, that sounds just like my school. The only difference is that we're recognized.

[ealiving]

NC State has 29,000 students and about 400 go through recruitment with 6 sororities on campus. Chapter totals are about 100.

The school has large engineering and agriculture programs, therefore the sorority life is a little small if you know what I mean! Most of the PNM's that stay in recruitment until the end get a bid even if it isn't for their top choice. We try to match as many as possible.

If girls on campus don't go through recruitment, it is basically because they hate greek life. I think greek life and other students are very segregated here at NC State, but we try very hard for it to not be that way.

[WhiteDaisy128]

Originally posted by ealiving
NC State has 29,000 students and about 400 go through recruitment with 6 sororities on campus. Chapter totals are about 100.

The school has large engineering and agriculture programs, therefore the sorority life is a little small if you know what I mean! Most of the PNM's that stay in recruitment until the end get a bid even if it isn't for their top choice. We try to match as many as possible.

If girls on campus don't go through recruitment, it is basically because they hate greek life. I think greek life and other students are very segregated here at NC State, but we try very hard for it to not be that way.

I co-sign everything said here. I'm at NCSU (well was at NCSU - just graduated) too and it really is kinda a Greek or TOTALLY NOT Greek attitude. I did a lot of work with the Greek Life office last summer and this summer to talk about Recruitment with rising freshmen and it was kinda all of nothing - they knew they wanted to rush right from the start or they didn't even want to hear anything about it.

We are trying hard though with big PR to get more girls interested. It helps that we've done so much expansion, and are continuing to do so.

[KDBuckeye]

At Ohio State the general attitude toward the Greek system is pretty much one of indifference. It's so disappointing that OSU is the second largest university in the country with about 50,000 students yet has a measley Greek population of about 2,500. That's about 5%. Last year we had approx. 600 girls sign up for formal recruitment and only about 300 actually went through. It def doesn't help that we have deferred recruitment and a cap on the total number of members that can be in a chapter of 100 people.

I guess at such a large institution with so many organizations and activities the Greek system just doesn't get the attention that it deserves so many students just don't care about fraternities and sororities. Such a shame.

[NinjaPoodle]

but there are a lot of greeks who transfered in from other schools. Out side of them(us), there really is no interest in bringing greek life to our campus. My school has a high concentration of international students who could care less about the concept of greek life. I wear my nalia' and the looks I get range from utter confusion to rolling eyes. It's no big deal here.

[winneythepooh7]

When I was at New Paltz, the majority population of students were "artsy hippie types" and VERY anti-Greek. I was up there last year though, and the orgs seem to be getting bigger and attracting more members. Unfortunately I don't think any new GLO's have come into existence and last year someone on the school paper wrote a very negative (stereotypical) editorial bashing Greek life at the school. I think in general, wherever you go, in whatever part of the country, you will either be for or against Greek life. Like any other type of committment, a very small percentage of the overall student population will probably end up completing then sticking with an org anyways. For the schools that get a huge turnout, I also think they have a huge student body as well, and if you have houses and a "Greek Row" that is very different than a small school where Greek life is not as recognized or supported.

[BSUPhiSig'92]

At SIUE, the general attitude seems to be mostly of ambivalence to Greek Life. Less than 4% of the students are Greek out of an enrollment of 13,500. We typically get around 80-100 women who sign up for recruitment and quota is usually mid-20s. The majority of our students are commuters, and really aren't interested in any activities. The people who go Greek typically live on campus or are the real
gung-ho type who want a traditional collegiate experience. I have also heard a lot of people who have said that if we had Greek housing, they would be more interested in joining.

[_Lisa_]

Originally posted by aephi alum
Nope. I'm used to fall recruitment too, and I prefer it. Back in the day, we had immediate fall formal recruitment in August, and for first-semester freshmen we (all the sororities) based our GPA cuts on the PNMs' high school GPAs.

UK has Fall Recruitment & also bases any GPA cut from the PNM's high school GPA. Any girls that are cut from rush because of a GPA are welcome to COB in the Spring after their GPA from first semester is established.

Recruitment @ UK is kind of a "take it or leave it" type thing. A lot of the campus seems pretty apathetic about Greek life but Recruitment always has a lot of girls (usually between 900-1000.)

[Imperial1]

There is no attitude toward it. At my school it's not anybody's business but the org and the person rushing, so that be the case, who ever goes to the rush is usually kept on the low.

Imperial1

[azdtaxi]

I don't mean to be dumb but what school is IU? And at our school only about 30 girls go through rush and the school is about 17,000 but it is a commuter campus ... i think sororities are def looked down upon. When i went to Ole Miss almost every girl looked up to the girls in sororities and wanted to be in one.

[KappaKittyCat]

Originally posted by Imperial1
There is no attitude toward it. At my school it's not anybody's business but the org and the person rushing, so that be the case, who ever goes to the rush is usually kept on the low.

Imperial1

Imperial1, am I correct in thinking that you go to a school that has all or mostly non-NPC/NIC groups?