Man's HIV Diagnosis Reversed 8 Years Later

I totally have to agree with Valkyrie on this one.

I mean even a fter 8 yrs....the mental anguish of knowing you ...
1. could infect someone
2. cant really have a normal sex life, kids, or someone who would be as intimate as a non infected SO would be
3 really the thought of dying is full of anxiety
4. it is a death sentence in a way
5. changed your entire way of life and how you know it
6. the malpractice of it
7. the medical cost
8. i could go on


$100 mill is low considering it all

[SSS1365]

I feel bad for the guy. I really really do. I don't even want to imagine what it would be like to live for 8 years thinking I had HIV. He definitely does deserve some compensation. But I agree with everything KSig said... I don't think $100 million is justified. Give him a fraction of that, fine, but $100 million? Do you have any idea how much that is?

By the way, he's gay and I hear he's in his late 50's, so I seriously doubt kids were gonna happen.

But still to live with the idea that if you got sick and couldn't recover , like with HIV , or even worse if matters got worse could die .....that is mental anguish to live for 8 yrs ......that is horrible.

ok he is in his late 50s.....men can still help in the baby making process hehehe

ok he may be gay but still to live all those yrs waiting for death to knock at your door if his condition worsen.......fraction.....oh the whole enchilada!

100 mill from m alpractice for something so simple as a blood test to say yeah or nay

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by SSS1365
By the way, he's gay and I hear he's in his late 50's, so I seriously doubt kids were gonna happen.

Many gay people have children, as do men in their 50s.

Although I think he's entitled to money, I agree that 100 million is excessive -- but I don't think that 1 million is enough.

[Rudey]

I say make him pay back the cost of all those free meals. I bet the VA hospital even paid for his meds and treatment too.

-Rudey

[SSS1365]

Originally posted by valkyrie
Many gay people have children, as do men in their 50s.

Ok, but being gay and nearly 60 leads one to believe that children were maybe not a goal in his life.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

I think that $100 million dollars is too high.

This is why you get a second or third opinion when you get a serious diagnosis. You have to be your own advocate when it comes to your heath.

[Kevin]

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
I think that $100 million dollars is too high.

This is why you get a second or third opinion when you get a serious diagnosis. You have to be your own advocate when it comes to your heath.

There ya go.

No one wants to take responisbility for themselves these days. Sometimes Dr.'s and Hospitals DO get it wrong. When all this guy had to do is trot down to the nearest clinic to get a 2nd opinion.

He had 8 years to do it, so why didn't he?

[AKA_Monet]

I dunno, I kind of agree with KSig RC on this one...

Dude HAD a second test ran on him, but the results were NEVER shared with him...

The article sez the Dr. said he was sorry... I can understand why "sorry" doesn't cut it after 8 years of being jacked up with "protease inhibitors"--aside from the fact that these drugs have secondary effects--such as cardiotoxicity...

So dude may not die of AIDS or cancer--which an HIV infection can cause--but will probably have cardiac hypertrophy that was built up over the years--and forget what these drugs did to his liver... But he won't get Alzheimer's--maybe... Who knows?

I say he get FREE medical healthcare for the rest of his life with full perscription coverage!!!

As far as medical doctor's fcukin' up with medical records--

An informed patient is a good patient...

In fact, I ask to see the results and ask them how they did the tests... They bullisht with me, they are asking for trouble... Because, I will order the DAYUM test kit myself and do it myself...

The other issue is, the "normal range" and "limits"... For many an HMO and VA--a patient can only present waaay below or waaay above the "standard range" that for whatever ails them... The standard was set ~50 years ago--research has advanced light years from that time. So what the "standard" is, is anybody's guess...

And with Single Nucleotide Polymorphic markers coming into play with pharmacogenetics and Big Pharma, it will make a confounding situation with folks...

Why cain't we cure nuthin' no mo'?

[KSig RC]

Originally posted by AKA_Monet

Why cain't we cure nuthin' no mo'?

I worked in a gene therapy lab for a while . . . we could 'kill cancer' in amazing ways using viral therapy, including macro-level HPV retraction . . . but it will be decades before a human sees the results. We can def kill the virus, for instance, but who in the shit knows what it will do to you? Not me or my lab - and they have decades of experience w/ just our 'suicide' gene.


I can 'cure' almost anything . . . survival might be low, though (think "Nagasaki radiation" low)


It's crazy - novel strategies give novel results . . . it's the truth, too

[AKA_Monet]

Originally posted by KSig RC
I worked in a gene therapy lab for a while . . . we could 'kill cancer' in amazing ways using viral therapy, including macro-level HPV retraction . . . but it will be decades before a human sees the results. We can def kill the virus, for instance, but who in the shit knows what it will do to you? Not me or my lab - and they have decades of experience w/ just our 'suicide' gene.


I can 'cure' almost anything . . . survival might be low, though (think "Nagasaki radiation" low)


It's crazy - novel strategies give novel results . . . it's the truth, too

"Suicide" retroviral vectors are interesting as cures for cancer, but there are huge ethical concerns, i.e. using a virus to kill another virus--there is always something bigger and badder than first one...

That's the thing, you nuke the fast growing cells, but you also nuke some good cells that aren't growing too fast, but are in a cell cycle that gets picked up with suicide gene...

Then there is the mutation rate--good guys going bad...

I dunno, cures ain't gonna be what they use to be... It will be more like, "pick your poison" and sign your death certificate--'cuz everyone will die one way or another...

Good Luck on your endeavors... If you want more insight for discussion, PM me... I would like to know more with getting extremely technical off this forum...