Senioritis??? - Page 2

Kevin · #16 08-15-2004, 01:51 PM

We used to have something in the bylaws allowing Seniors to go alum early. That has since been removed. Now, they're the same as everyone else.

CASIGKAP · #17 08-15-2004, 03:16 PM

This is what I have found out so far regarding seniors going alum. I'm not sure what the protocal was until I read your post but this is what I've gathered so far.

Some of the girls that went alum in the fall actually graduated in the previous spring of 03 but they had to return to finish some classes. Long Beach allows a person to march during the commencment ceremonies even if you're a class or two short. You then have to return in the summer of fall to finish.
As for the rest, I'll bring it up when we get together next week and ask if they know what the policies or if there is something they know that I don't.
I'll update when I find out. It's better to be informed than to guess get in trouble over nothing. At the same time, it's better to catch any trouble now before it really comes down.

Tom Earp · #18 08-15-2004, 04:49 PM

Just a Quesation, why should Seniors be any different??

Going Alum is something intirely different!

There is No 4-5 year trying to get a Degree for Graduation.

4 used to be the norm. 5, is becoming the norm. I did in 7!

Wated to Be A College Kid for a Long Time!

2 Colleges, 2 Majors, 2 Fraternities!

Last was best on all 3 counts!

My Organization is Still for Life! LXA, 40 years and still goimg strong!

Oh, If I had Not gotten married, I would be the oldest College Kid on Site!

Oh, dinner is smelling so good!

Peaches-n-Cream · #19 08-15-2004, 05:29 PM

Back when I was a student, seniors could miss events if they had interviews or standardized tests or internships. I can count on one hand the number of seniors who abused this privilege. Most sisters made an effort to be involved. One semester about one quarter of the sisters were seniors. The only ones who were "inactive" were the nursing majors because they had to work in the hospital for so many hours at very strange times.

Tom Earp · #20 08-15-2004, 05:55 PM

Oh, Job and College Related!

Only reasons to not be there!

Sorry Still Hard Nosed on this! In For an Ounce, In For A Pound!

seraphimsprite · #21 08-15-2004, 07:21 PM

When I was a student we didn't have senior status (and ktkennyd is right - Sigma Kappa doesn't allow seniors to go alum after the first semester.) We did have a system of "privileged absenses" where girls who had accumulated enough priority points (earned through grades, offices held, and campus, community and chapter involvement) were allowed to miss a certain number of minor events each semester. It was usually most of the seniors and sometimes a couple of juniors and they were able to miss informal meetings, social issues programming and other similar things. You couldn't use more than 6 per term and you couldn't use them for ritual, formal chapter, recruitment or anything like that. I always thought that was a good way to do things. By the time we were seniors we didn't really want to sit through another etiquette workshop. I think the year after I graduated we had a chapter consultant put an end to them though - she said it was hazing.

Little E · #22 08-16-2004, 09:50 AM

Everyone in our chapter gets 2 mental health days per semester. Not good for ritual or nat'l visits. Then this year, my senior class and I instigated the senior skip, and we ducked out on chapter meeting to go socialize together. It was right after election takeover, so no one had a position they needed to speak for at chapter. We declared it, the chapter followed. It was a great needed stress break from what was becoming hard.

To those who aren't seniors... When you've been active for four years and you see that light at the end of the tunnel it is very hard to be overly committed to your chapter. I love AST, but there was a point where I could not stand to be in the same room as my sisters. They are wonderful people, but I didn't want to spend hours upon hours at chapter dealing with issues that I would be gone for. I didn't care about fall retreat and those things. great for the chapter, but I had better stuff to do. I think that there are times when seniors need to suck it up, but then, if you don't help them somehow, you are screwing them and you lose them when they first graduate. A time you don't want them to leave with negative feelings. Essentially, i feel like there should be consideration for these women, and as you go through it, you really begin to see how tough it really is, but then it is too late to change, you are alum, you can only give your opinion... just my 2cents

LionTamer · #23 08-16-2004, 09:56 AM

It's also a little tough to get quite as excited about socials when 75% of the guys are younger than you!

aephi alum · #24 08-16-2004, 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by LionTamer
It's also a little tough to get quite as excited about socials when 75% of the guys are younger than you!

...and you're engaged! We had to attend a certain percentage of social events each semester (mixers, a date party, and a semiformal or formal - which counted double). During my last semester, even though I was taking my then-fiance to our date party and formal, I still had to go to a couple of mixers to keep my percentage up. That didn't go over too well with my fiance...! But actually, it was kind of fun to hang out with my sisters and the guys, and I kept my engagement ring on so the guys knew I was "hands off".

Tom Earp · #25 08-16-2004, 04:53 PM

Hm, When I go Down To The Pitt. I still Kiss and Dance With Stacey who is My Brothers Fiance and I Love Dearly!

I am an Alum, almost 40 years worth. I will be going down this week end for a Recruitment Function.

So, As a Senior, You Do not have to do anything???

You are The The Icons that All Of The Others Who Look Up To Be The Leaders Of Your Organization!

If you feel that way, I for one feel very sorry for you and Your Organization!

The Guiding Light just went out!

Betarulz! · #26 08-16-2004, 06:00 PM

For us, it really varies by pledge class how involved the seniors are going to be.

First off, we don't have many mandatory events. Some events are termed mandatory, but little - if any- punishment is given out.

Some years, seniors are around a lot, other years not so much. When I was a freshman there were only 2 seniors living in the house (president and VP of fall semester) and we probably only really talked with about 4 others - the ones that let us party at their off campus houses. We knew of proabably another 5, but beyond that, there were probably another 6-7 that I never, ever met.

I think that my pledge class is going to still be very involved. We tended to have some of the best attendance at rush events during the summer. However, I know that there are going to be a couple of us that won't be around, and I can already name them off.

I guess you can say the expectations are lowered, but there are no special privilages.

PM_Mama00 · #27 08-16-2004, 07:19 PM

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Originally posted by Little E
Everyone in our chapter gets 2 mental health days per semester. Not good for ritual or nat'l visits. Then this year, my senior class and I instigated the senior skip, and we ducked out on chapter meeting to go socialize together. It was right after election takeover, so no one had a position they needed to speak for at chapter. We declared it, the chapter followed. It was a great needed stress break from what was becoming hard.

To those who aren't seniors... When you've been active for four years and you see that light at the end of the tunnel it is very hard to be overly committed to your chapter. I love AST, but there was a point where I could not stand to be in the same room as my sisters. They are wonderful people, but I didn't want to spend hours upon hours at chapter dealing with issues that I would be gone for. I didn't care about fall retreat and those things. great for the chapter, but I had better stuff to do. I think that there are times when seniors need to suck it up, but then, if you don't help them somehow, you are screwing them and you lose them when they first graduate. A time you don't want them to leave with negative feelings. Essentially, i feel like there should be consideration for these women, and as you go through it, you really begin to see how tough it really is, but then it is too late to change, you are alum, you can only give your opinion... just my 2cents

Lol you said it sooooo well! I used to get pissed when the seniors would start to lose interest, and think they didn't care about the chapter. Now I'm like "Oh man I know what they were thinking."

I love my ritual and initiation... but dayum I've been through 8 of them!

KSUViolet06 · #28 08-16-2004, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Lol you said it sooooo well! I used to get pissed when the seniors would start to lose interest, and think they didn't care about the chapter. Now I'm like "Oh man I know what they were thinking."

I love my ritual and initiation... but dayum I've been through 8 of them!

This is why I'm glad I joined my chapter at the end of sophomore year. I know the seniors get burned out- they've been around for 4-5 years. I'll only be a collegian for two years. It's bittersweet though, but at least I don't have the opportunity to get as burned out as the 4-5th yr girls.

adpiucf · #29 08-16-2004, 07:29 PM

In ADPi, all members are expected to attend chapter meetings and fulfill a set number of service projects, as well as assist with and attend a chapter-sponsored event/s for our international philanthropy, Ronald McDonald House Charities.

Little E · #30 08-17-2004, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by PM_Mama00

I love my ritual and initiation... but dayum I've been through 8 of them!

I was sooooo happy the last day i wore my whites, I think it will be a good 10 years before i can wear an all white outfit again...minus a wedding dress, i'll make an exception