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08-12-2004, 08:49 PM
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How so?? On my campus, you could only do imformal if you weren't already at chapter total. And I definately don't see anything wrong with that. It give the smaller chapters a chance to get their numbers up.
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Worked the same exact way at my school as well!
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08-12-2004, 09:17 PM
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How so?? On my campus, you could only do imformal if you weren't already at chapter total. And I definately don't see anything wrong with that. It give the smaller chapters a chance to get their numbers up.
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Yeah, but if you have 2 spots, and give out five bids, you get to take three extra girls, and can't be punished for it the next time around.
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08-12-2004, 09:23 PM
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Do you just mean during FR? My understanding is this- EVERY chapter does FR and can get quota no matter how many members they have. BUT, once FR is over, only chapters below chapter total (on my campus this was around 185) were able to continue recruiting through informal and COR.
So, even though total at my campus was 185, most chapters had 200 or 250 because quota during FR was so high.
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Yes. You can take quota every formal rush.
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08-12-2004, 09:46 PM
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Notice they said "alumni" and not "alumnae".
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08-12-2004, 10:09 PM
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In reading this article it occurred to me that Greek Life is a unique sub-culture on college campuses and due to its elite stature, the average non-Greek is unfamiliar with sorority customs and terminologies. Hence, the story quoted alumnae and their perspectives on the process, but the reporter clearly doesn't understand it himself; hence the inaccuracies reported. Also, having worked with alum who have been far removed from the college scene for some years outside of writing recs, they are often out of the loop when it comes to terminology changes, recruitment rules (even on their campuses) and policies.
Great Greek PR though.
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08-12-2004, 10:25 PM
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Back to the comment on NPC guidelines and not being able to restrict quota--
While I was in school, our formal rush was in early October. One group decided to hand out COB bids about a week before recruitment started. This particular group was already one of the largest groups on campus, and this enabled them to COB to total, then still take quota through formal rush (which they did). They ended up being WAY over total and the largest group on campus--and there was very little anyone could do.
Talk about dirty rushing!!
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08-12-2004, 11:05 PM
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It was my understanding that if your campus has deferred fall formal recruitment that the PC can institute a bid freeze until the time of formal recruitment.
Second - PC can't kick you out of formal recruitment for infractions, they can sanction you if you are found GUILTY after a mediation and then J-Board hearing.
If you have two spots you should be giving out 2 bids!
Some of you guys need to read your green book (along with the new recruitment resolutions) and like I tell my groups speak up!!!
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08-13-2004, 12:02 AM
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Some of you guys need to read your green book (along with the new recruitment resolutions) and like I tell my groups speak up!!!
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i totally agree with this. my campus...alma mater and now i advise there...has so many inaccurate things happening during recruitment. they have their own version of every panhel rule and of course have none of it in writing, but they are so engrained with incorrect info! you would be so sick if i told you some of the things that have been allowed to go on! oh, and no one wants to change it because they think they are correct!
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08-13-2004, 12:04 AM
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Just to be nit picky.........Does the writer NOT know that the plural of alumna is alumnAE and not alumnI?????
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The writer is obviously not that familiar with sororities.  She never spelled out Zeta Tau Alpha in the article, only calling us "Zeta". It is strange because our alumnae chapters have several items a year in there and it is a very small paper. All she had to do was check her own archives.
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And is that our SMU house in the picture????
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Yes, that is your house! Beautiful!
BTW...the Zeta in the article is in my alumnae chapter! Laura is super cool and is on our local housing board for the ZTA house at SMU.
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08-13-2004, 12:07 AM
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And is that our SMU house in the picture????
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YES!!! That's MY house and it is beautiful!!
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08-13-2004, 01:56 AM
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you would be so sick if i told you some of the things that have been allowed to go on! oh, and no one wants to change it because they think they are correct!
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What kinds of things go on there? And, is there not any way to get things corrected? I would think that if enough alumnae brought up the issue, things would be looked at more carefully.
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08-13-2004, 10:25 AM
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Second - PC can't kick you out of formal recruitment for infractions, they can sanction you if you are found GUILTY after a mediation and then J-Board hearing.
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Right C, that's what I meant - that kind of punishment wouldn't be for things like too many balloons - it would be a disciplinary measure for more serious things. PM me if I'm confusing you.
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08-13-2004, 12:03 PM
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More people do need to have access to the green book. That would help all around. I would guess that most campuses don't actually follow the green book completely since most collegians or advisors have not read it.
For example -- Silence is supposed to be limited to a 24 hour period. The new version spells this out a bit clearer and talks about panhellenically spirited conversation. But - if we polled this group, my guess is over 90% have a silence period longer than 24 hours.
Good news though! NPC is creating a separate book just on recruitment and rumor has it that the green book and the recruitment book will be an online available resource. This should help the situation considerably.
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08-13-2004, 12:11 PM
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How so?? On my campus, you could only do imformal if you weren't already at chapter total. And I definately don't see anything wrong with that. It give the smaller chapters a chance to get their numbers up.
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Really? In that case, I know of at least 3 groups @ Kent who definitely shouldn't be doing informal. All sororities here participate, even those I KNOW are @ total.
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10-24-2004, 10:50 AM
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About the Green Book rules, aren't most of the statements in there "recommendations"? I know most of them are very strong recommendations and so we should be trying to follow them, but in the end we are each allowed to do what is best for our own campus. Correct me if I am wrong.
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