McCain condemns anti-Kerry ads, calls on White House to follow suit

[DELTAQTE]

Originally posted by Rudey
There are always people attacking everything and most people are not happy with Kerry's actions AFTER the war.

-Rudey

But that isn't the ONLY thing they are attacking. I've seen the interviews and they weren't only talking about his actions after the war, THAT'S my point.

McCain and Kerry are friends and I'm glad he stood up for his brother in combat.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by DELTAQTE
But that isn't the ONLY thing they are attacking. I've seen the interviews and they weren't only talking about his actions after the war, THAT'S my point.

McCain and Kerry are friends and I'm glad he stood up for his brother in combat.

Stop capitalizing your words. It's annoying. And I didn't say it was the only thing. Please READ.

-Rudey

[DELTAQTE]

Originally posted by Rudey
Stop capitalizing your words. It's annoying. And I didn't say it was the only thing. Please READ.

-Rudey

It's not what he did during the war but what he did after.

READ what you typed again before replying for 500, Alex?

[Rudey]

Originally posted by DELTAQTE
READ what you typed again before replying for 500, Alex?

Right. Read it again. It's not an absolute statement. In fact it doesn't make reference to who does share that sentiment.

LEARN TO READ BEFORE YOU EVER TELL SOMEONE ELSE TO READ BECAUSE YOU SUCK AT JEOPARDY AND GREEKCHAT.COM.

-Rudey

[RACooper]

Hahahahahahaha....

Sorry just finished watching the CBC doing an editoral report into the add....

Hahahahahahaha...

I can't help it, the morons in the ad lost all crediblilty with just a little digging... such as the guy who claims that there was no hostile fire... hmmm you got a decoration for the same action and whats this? hello an acount of hostile fire? and the man Kerry rescued also telling you he was under fire... funny how he didn't want to do an interview

Oh wait there's more... another veteran in the ad was actually the commander that recommended Kerry for the Silver Star.... I'd love to hear his explaination for this...

Oh shit there's even more... is it interesting to see where the money came from, and who was involved... yep it's the Texas Republicans and good'ol Karl. Well I guess if attacking a veteran's service record worked against McCain, it'll work against Kerry too...

[Rudey]

There's not enough news in Canada to cover on the CBC? I guess it's a little strange that another country does reporting on an advertisement for another country's elections.

-Rudey

Originally posted by RACooper
Hahahahahahaha....

Sorry just finished watching the CBC doing an editoral report into the add....

Hahahahahahaha...

I can't help it, the morons in the ad lost all crediblilty with just a little digging... such as the guy who claims that there was no hostile fire... hmmm you got a decoration for the same action and whats this? hello an acount of hostile fire? and the man Kerry rescued also telling you he was under fire... funny how he didn't want to do an interview

Oh wait there's more... another veteran in the ad was actually the commander that recommended Kerry for the Silver Star.... I'd love to hear his explaination for this...

Oh shit there's even more... is it interesting to see where the money came from, and who was involved... yep it's the Texas Republicans and good'ol Karl. Well I guess if attacking a veteran's service record worked against McCain, it'll work against Kerry too...

[RACooper]

Originally posted by Rudey
I guess it's a little strange that another country does reporting on an advertisement for another country's elections.

-Rudey

Yes shocking isn't... that we like to educate ourselves about the political happenings of our neighbour to the south...

Update> well this morning Kerry's statements about the Swiftboat Veteran's for Truth: as in doing dirty work for Bush; happened to also make the front page of the newspapers too.

Guess us Canadians cant' get enough news about the rest of the world... Rudey you should write a complaint to the Canadian news media sources and chastise them on reporting news outside of Canada.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by RACooper
Yes shocking isn't... that we like to educate ourselves about the political happenings of our neighbour to the south...

Update> well this morning Kerry's statements about the Swiftboat Veteran's for Truth: as in doing dirty work for Bush; happened to also make the front page of the newspapers too.

Guess us Canadians cant' get enough news about the rest of the world... Rudey you should write a complaint to the Canadian news media sources and chastise them on reporting news outside of Canada.

No no never use educate in any of your posts. You've come on here repeatedly and posted lies and inaccuracies. In fact you don't even know the details for this yet, again, you are posting things against Bush because you are so anti-American and anti-Bush.

-Rudey

[AnchorAlum]

Two thoughts:

McCain is upset because he sees his hard fought-and-won legislation, which will forever have his name on it, doing just what opponents said it would do. Now they're right, he's wrong, and he is embarassed. BTW, I like the guy.

Secondly, GOP ads have not been negative. Others like the swift boat ads are negative.
But not nearly as negative as a Soros sponsored ad for Kerry that alludes to Bush as Hitler.

And a third, bonus thought!

Why did Kerry put his four months out there as his centerpiece instead of his twenty years in the Senate?
Just a thought for inquiring minds...

[damasa]

Originally posted by AnchorAlum


Why did Kerry put his four months out there as his centerpiece instead of his twenty years in the Senate?
Just a thought for inquiring minds...

I've always thought of it in the sense that we have experienced war recently which could possible allude to why he uses it during the time of a "war president."

Let's not talk about negative ads involving Hitler. No, no, not even the one in which Bush ran regarding "The Faces of John Kerry's Democratic Party" in which they used spliced images of Hitler. This was in response to an add that was in submission to moveon.org during a period of time in which many people submitted ads for a contest they held. Moveon.org removed the ad which compared Bush to Hitler and denounced it as well.

Maybe he also did it to contrast the service of our current president?


Ever get those stats on how Enron "actually gave more to democrats over time"?
Link

[Rudey]

That ad actually showed imaged of the Moveon.org ad. That part on Hitler was the Moveon.org ad. The whole point of the ad was that it was ridiculous for certain people to make such extreme accusations and it was also shamefully ignorant of Democrats for making the Holocaust seem like a trivial act.

-Rudey

Originally posted by damasa
I've always thought of it in the sense that we have experienced war recently which could possible allude to why he uses it during the time of a "war president."

Let's not talk about negative ads involving Hitler. No, no, not even the one in which Bush ran regarding "The Faces of John Kerry's Democratic Party" in which they used spliced images of Hitler. This was in response to an add that was in submission to moveon.org during a period of time in which many people submitted ads for a contest they held. Moveon.org removed the ad which compared Bush to Hitler and denounced it as well.

Maybe he also did it to contrast the service of our current president?


Ever get those stats on how Enron "actually gave more to democrats over time"?
Link

[AnchorAlum]

Rudey, Thank You. Keep the faith!

Those who fight ignorance are in a never-ending battle.

Ever feel like you're in a dog-eat-dog world wearing milk bone underwear?

[damasa]

Originally posted by AnchorAlum
Rudey, Thank You. Keep the faith!

Those who fight ignorance are in a never-ending battle.

Ever feel like you're in a dog-eat-dog world wearing milk bone underwear?

You mean like the ignorance where "Enron gave more Democrats over time?" Did you still not get those stats?

IN any event, Rudey did make some good points because I didn't know that the moveon.org ad was spliced into the Bush ad. But the point is that moveon.org denounced the ad. The ad was not run by the Kerry campaign but the Bush campaign decided to show it as John Kerry's Democratic Party when it was produced by an idiot and it was quickly denounced even by those horrible Democrats over at moveon.org. I don't speak for all Democrats but I have a good feeling that most people didn't/don't agree with someone comparing Bush to Hitler.

But let's talk about Enron and get back to fighting ignorance! ow ow!

[RACooper]

Originally posted by Rudey
No no never use educate in any of your posts. You've come on here repeatedly and posted lies and inaccuracies. In fact you don't even know the details for this yet, again, you are posting things against Bush because you are so anti-American and anti-Bush.

-Rudey

Huh... well yes I'm anti-Bush, but shockingly that doesn't make me anti-American, nor does it make anyone who feels that the Bush administration is one of the worst things to happen to the US. You'll note that I have never stooped to your level and insulted all Americans (as you have Canadians), my insults and critizism has been directed against individuals and/or groups that I disagree with or oppose.

Now an intelligent person might realise that the actions of these Swiftboat Veterans are incredibly damaging to the moral credibility of the GOP campaign (at least abroad), as are some of the other ethical interesting actions taken on the campaign trail - case in point the whole screened and prepared audiences that Bush has in his question periods. The reason that the CBC did some investigation into the ad controversy was as a media analysis of an attack ad's reception in the voting public, and how these ads are made (basically were the money comes from). They showed and discussed ads from both sides, and delved into the politics behind the ads... it's just the Swiftboat ad was particularly singled out for it's lies (not bending of truth) and it's finacial ties to the Bush campaign, and the history of the makers of the ad - same guys who attacked McCain's service when he opposed Bush. The conection to the CBC and the ads was a comparison to the US public reaction to the Swiftboat ad, and the Canadian reaction to the ad - and how it compared to the now infamous (in Canada) attack ad against Chretien, which ended up costing the Conservatives the election and nearly their existance.

[KSigkid]

"We have not and will not question Senator Kerry's service in Vietnam," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters aboard Air Force One. "The president is calling for an immediate cessation to all the unregulated soft money activity."

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...5811-6900r.htm

Bush has come out against the ads - whether it's as forcefully as some would like, that's open to debate, but he and his campaign have come out against all third party ads, whether they be Moveon.org or the swift boat vets.

It certainly adds a new wrinkle to the whole election season.