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07-28-2004, 02:35 AM
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"Abortion tickles."
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07-28-2004, 03:15 AM
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Since when is having an abortin something you should be proud of?!? I just don't see this as a decision that you would want to broadcast to the World.
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07-28-2004, 06:18 AM
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I am one of the biggest advocates for pro-choice out there.....but this is just......
TACKY
apparently these people and the people who buy these things have no home-training.
::shudder::
also for women to use abortions as a form of birth control....well they can just tie their damn tubes....thats just irresponisble and wrong and a whole bunch of other words that would get me banned  .....
sometimes i just really dont understand people today
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07-28-2004, 07:49 AM
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As (apparently one of the few) an anti-abortion person (can't say I'm Pro-life because I'm not against the death penalty, but that's a whole other discussion)....And let me just say that I don't want this to turn into an abortion debate, because that's not what this particular thread is about, there are other threads for that....
I personally feel that this shirt would be in better taste if it said "I murdered an innocent life". Who wants to wear THAT shirt? It states (what I believe to be) the same thing, only in more powerful words. Is this offensive to women who have had an abortion because of rape/incest/medical reasons (which I will tell you I can find justifcation for)? I don't believe so, because the rape/incest/med women are (usually) not the kind of women who would buy this shirt anyway.
Even if you are pro-choice, how can anyone make abortion as casual as a t-shirt????????
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07-28-2004, 07:51 AM
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Even if you are pro-choice, how can anyone make abortion as casual as a t-shirt????????
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Agreed.
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07-28-2004, 08:44 AM
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I've seen someone wearing this before...
Although I don't like the shirt and believe it's in poor taste, I understand why PP is doing this. It's part of the "I'm Not Sorry" campaign, which is trying to show women who don't regret making the choice. Instead of spurring discussion--which is what the shirt is supposed to do--it's probably going to spur more harassment.
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07-28-2004, 09:00 AM
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I can see where they may have been going with this idea - but it's not a good idea, at all.
This is definitely a fumble on the part of Planned Parenthood.
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07-28-2004, 09:05 AM
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I agree that this shirt is very poor taste.
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07-28-2004, 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by valkyrie
If someone is so emotionally fragile after having an abortion for medical reasons that a t-shirt would upset her, wouldn't she also be upset by seeing families out with their healthy babies? I don't think that likelihood of upsetting someone is a good reason to not wear a tshirt.
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There's a difference, though. The women who had to have an abortion for medical reasons wanted her baby; most people who have abortions for other reasons usually don't. Yes, seeing a family with a healthy child can be upsetting, but not nearly as much as seeing someone boldly proclaim they ended their child's life (and don't even tell me that it's just a fetus, not a child, because in the mind of a pregnant (or formerly pregnant) woman, that baby is her child--a living person--from the day she sees those two little lines on the pg test.) The same goes for women who have had miscarriages.
Allthough I don't consider myself pro-Choice, I do respect people who feel that's the best decision for them at that time. No, women do not need to be ashamed of the fact they had an abortion, but neither does it need to be glorified or treated in such a blase manner. No matter what Planned Parenthood's motive was in promoting these t-shirts, it is in poor taste and will most likely cause them more issues.
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07-28-2004, 09:40 AM
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The purpose of this shirt is not to make a political statement. It's to get a rise out of people.
Judging by this thread, it works well.
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07-28-2004, 09:43 AM
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It cheapens the seriousness of the decision. I'm pro choice but would be horribly put off by seeing anyone wear it. And you know high school girls would be wearing it just to look like "bad girls." I can hear it now..."Hee hee...OMG this shirt is so freaking funny! I am totally going to buy it! giggle giggle giggle."
"Mary Is My Homegirl" shirts were bad enough.
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07-28-2004, 09:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by sugar and spice
It's more or less a publicity stunt for Planned Parenthood. They're getting tons of attention from this.
And I wouldn't say that this shirt is in particular poor taste after seeing this one:
http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/tshirt.php?sku=a08
But then again, poor taste varies -- I can see a lot more stupid high school boys getting this shirt because they think it's funny than women who have actually had abortions. But if someone who's had an abortion wants to wear a shirt like this, I have no issue with it -- as long as they're prepared to deal with all the isht it's going to stir up, of course.
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That shirt and that entire site are OUT OF CONTROL!!!
I am pro-life, but I do not necessarily want everyone who has had an abortion to regret it for the rest of their lives. That being said, the "I had an abortion" t-shirt and the "I'm not sorry" campaign are just wrong to me. The law states that abortion is legal, but I don't see why it needs to be advertised in this way. It sounds like PP is trying to convince more and more people to have an abortion. I think if someone is going to have an one they will do it and do not need PP to tell them to or that it is ok.
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07-28-2004, 09:53 AM
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My friend told me what happens at an abortion (they crush the babies heads and throw em in the garbage bag, or something along those lines) and for then on, everytime I hear the word abortion, these images flash thru my head.
I think these T-shirts are just wrong IMO. If you are pro-choice, why would you even desensitize abortion. Even people who have had it done don't want to be reminded. its just not cool!
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07-28-2004, 10:04 AM
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I'm Pro-Choice and I agree this shirt is in really poor taste.
I see what PP is trying to do, but I think they're going about it all wrong.
I don't think people should be ashamed of haveing an abortion but I don't think it's something they should be proud of either. The women who have abortions had one because they felt it was the right decision for them, and they should be able to contiue thir lives free from ridicule for making that decision.
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07-28-2004, 10:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by valkyrie
I agree with everyone who says it's in poor taste, but at the same time I'd really love to live in a society where women aren't scared and ashamed to admit having had an abortion.
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I think there are a lot of women who don't have a problem admitting or talking about it in an intelligent way. That's hella different than putting it on a t-shirt. It's an important emotional issue, not a rock band tour or a truck you think is really spiffy.
There are a LOT of really asinine message t-shirts out there right now - the "Mrs. Affleck/Timberlake/Pitt etc" and "Only Old People Vote" being at the top of my list for my rabbit to poop on, but I digress.
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