We do not have COUSINS

[Shelacious]

I have affection and support for the commonalities between SGRho and us. I can respect and have affection for the members of Beta and Gamma because of the circumstances of their founding.

We do not have familial relationships with any of those organizations, however. The difference between the two is the mind share given our familial organizations within our International Sorority infrastructure. Our Sorority encourages, strengthens and cultivates a relationship with Phi Beta Sigma and our auxiliaries on an international level. The affection individual members may share with SGRho, Beta, Lambda or any other GLO is just that--individual. I have no issue with individual members having an affectionate and informal bond with any other member of a specific GLO. I do separate the difference between that, though, and the official familial bonds my Organization puts considerable resources into promoting.

[jojapeach]

Originally posted by blulady
When people insist that I do not know my own sorority's history because I do not know about this fraternity and sorority, it leads me to believe that there are others who truly believe and are convinced that Sigmas and Zetas have cousins whether we are all aware of it or not.

If those "people" are in the Blue and White family, you could consider their concerns because they could teach you something you didn't already know about your family.

If those "people" aren't ZPBS, who cares about what they insist on? Just enlighten them on the fact that any other bond outside of Zeta and Sigma is unofficial and personal preferences for individual members. Any other thought or emotions you put into the idea is extra energy that could be used elsewhere.

Sorry if I might have offended any Zetas or Sigmas.

[blulady]

joja; the statement came from a non Blue and White person. Also, I cannot consider this information about Blue and White as learning something new because it is actually false. If my friend had claimed that this was something unofficial that was recognized in a certain area, I would not have posted or started this thread. Im quite sure that you would not want someone to make a claim about your org that was false even if it were only believed by a few. To respond to someone else's question, I wouldn't have a problem with Betas or Gammas being our cousins so long as it was uniformly acknowledged in the same respect as the rest of the B&W family. It does little service to either org. to have something recognized in some places and not all.

[nikki1920]

No offense, but the "cousin" reference is more common the further South one gets. ITs UNOFFICIAL, like your play cousin from when you were little. Its not that serious. And yes, I am a Zeta. Dont take it so seriously.

[LB1914]

Originally posted by nikki1920
No offense, but the "cousin" reference is more common the further South one gets. ITs UNOFFICIAL, like your play cousin from when you were little. Its not that serious. And yes, I am a Zeta. Dont take it so seriously.

That's true. I think some people tend to forget that there are a gang of Sigma and Zeta chapters in areas where there are no Betas and Gammas. It is really silly for Frat in Florida to get mad at Frat in Louisiana because they don't shout-out our "cousins" when there are none there. If people in those areas with Betas and Gammas wish to do the "cousin" thing that's fine, but it shouldn't be forced down anyone else's throats.

[nikki1920]

Good point, Frat. I would also point out that alot of things in our orgs are REGIONAL. I'd never heard of the "cousin" reference until I was on MeetGreeks and just thought it was cool, after I'd read the history of the Gammas and Betas. Even then, I didnt freak out about it, it was kind of a compliment to us, IMO.

[Strive]

I do not know any Betas and Gammas personally. But from what I have read about the Betas beginnings. I understand why they called Zetas and Sigmas cousins.

Our brother, the Sigmas, are a unique bunch. Sigmas can honestly say that they started the ball rolling for three organizations.
Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc.
Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Inc.
Sigma Lambda Beta (founder is a Sigma). I don't think he de-pledge.

[rezilient]

...........to the Soror that started this topic. I back you up 100%!
I don't acknowledge this "bond". Never have. Never will. Simple as that. I treat Betas/Gammas as I do any other greek orgs.......with RESPECT. Just don't step to me with that "cousin" crap.

[Shortfuse]

Most Sigmas are cool with this bond. If Zetas aren't cool, then that's peachy. But you can't stop frat from claiming other orgs ESPECIALLY if FRAT started it.

[Imperial1]

Originally posted by Shortfuse
Most Sigmas are cool with this bond. If Zetas aren't cool, then that's peachy. But you can't stop frat from claiming other orgs ESPECIALLY if FRAT started it.

@ the part in italics. I ain't cool with it because I don't know anything about either of those 2 orgs, Just know that without Sigma, there is no Zeta, and when you can show me where in our constitutions where it says that "we have cousins" then I'll be cool with it. Other then that, we don't have cousins officially.

Imperial1

[TheEpitome1920]

Why are we still having this conversation?? More importantly why are we discussing family business in a public forum??

[Shortfuse]

Originally posted by Imperial1
@ the part in italics. I ain't cool with it because I don't know anything about either of those 2 orgs, Just know that without Sigma, there is no Zeta, and when you can show me where in our constitutions where it says that "we have cousins" then I'll be cool with it. Other then that, we don't have cousins officially.

Imperial1

Who said anything about officially? Please show proof of somebody actually saying that? I doubt that you can.

[Imperial1]

Originally posted by Shortfuse
Who said anything about officially? Please show proof of somebody actually saying that? I doubt that you can.

Official or "Claims", they aren't cousins to me and a lot of others who know nothing about those orgs.

Imperial1

[Imperial1]

Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
Why are we still having this conversation?? More importantly why are we discussing family business in a public forum??

O girl don't worry. Whatever is supposed to stay in the between the fam will definitely stay in between the fam. Just like the stuffing between tacos and burritos.

Imperial1

[Shortfuse]

Originally posted by Imperial1
Official or "Claims", they aren't cousins to me and a lot of others who know nothing about those orgs.

Imperial1

Well I spoke on this in another thread.

Originally posted by Shortfuse
So if you're correcting your friend then why bother bringing this nonsense to us. This is just as crazy as the "dove" arguement that use to pop up on megagreek.


It might have been wrong to say Zetas are cousins to this org but why not just let Sigmas claim this.

Your brother's cousins your cousins too? Not necessarily. My (REAL) brother has another father and I'm not related to none of his family members. So your question has been answered.