Personality and Greek Life

[Diamond Delta]

Originally posted by JocelynC
You know, Jesus also said it was HIS job to judge others. You know " Judge NOT lest ye be judged."

In all due respect JocelynC, that's exactly what we do during rush-judge judge judge. So let's not get into a scripture quoting debate about his. The original poster is merely stating her feelings and experiences and has not slammed greek life at all. She has some good points. It may not be for everyone and in the frenzy to get the bestest new member class eva! maybe we should spend just a tad more time letting them know what is expected up front. They are just suggestions

[_Q_]

Thanks! Another thing that's jumped out at me is that recruitment seems fallible and often rather superficial. I see anecdotes that criticize PNMs for things that seem fairly minor - e.g., underdressing for events. Do members get any training in spotting more serious red flags? For example, a vindictive personality or a substance abuse problem could be a much bigger problem than overly casual dress.

[AlphaFrog]

While a vindictive personality might come out during rush, the only way you're going to be able to spot someone with a substance abuse problem is if you see them slammed at the bar every night after rush ends, since rush is a dry event. Even if a girl discusses alcohol at rush (which I'm pretty sure is a no-no most places), it's impossible to tell if someone has a drinking problem from just talking to them.

[TheEpitome1920]

I would encourage anyone who is interested in greek life to research and ask questions PRIOR to seeking membership. All this de-pledging, leaving chapters madness doesn't make sense to me. Know what you are getting into. Everything will NOT be peaches and cream but if you are serious it can be a rewarding experience. I agree that it takes a particular type of person to join our organizatons but you have to have some sort of understanding of who you are before you come to me seeking membership. Joing XYZ will not always solve/increase your [insert issue here]. JMHO.

[AXOKatie]

Originally posted by BabyP
I was like no thanks and it was funny how when you depledge or drop, they become two faced and act like they dont know you / or better than you.

To be fair though, sometimes people who drop are the same way, like they're better than your org. or your org. is not worthy of their time...or they avoid you during classes or walking around campus because it's AWKWARD especially if you went through the process together and are really into your org. or if you were only beginning to be close to that member...

[CASIGKAP]

I think I may have forgotten the whole point of this discussion in the first place.
If you know Greek Life isn't for you, then why get on a GREEK website to tell us all about it? It's your personal point of view & that's fine & I do thank you for not slamming Greek Life. We know it's not for everyone. Greek Life is not meant to be for everyone. You know if you belong or not. That's all there is to it.

[sairose]

_Q_, I think you have made some very valid observations. Also, thank you for sharing your thoughts with us without pointing fingers or expressing anger. An awful lot of people come here just to BASH Greeks, and I'm glad to see someone share their thoughts without insulting.

And, I do not consider Ritual to be "sacred" or "religious". However, I can see how, to some, this might seem this way. I've known of Greeks resigning from their GLO because they felt it had spiritual connotations. Honestly, while I do not agree, I can respect that. Afterall, the Bible DOES teach that if you feel something is wrong, then it IS wrong for YOU to do it. That doesn't mean it is wrong for others.

I hope some of this made sense. Also, check your PMs.

[_Q_]

Originally posted by CASIGKAP

If you know Greek Life isn't for you, then why get on a GREEK website to tell us all about it? It's your personal point of view & that's fine & I do thank you for not slamming Greek Life. We know it's not for everyone. Greek Life is not meant to be for everyone. You know if you belong or not. That's all there is to it.

Well, as I said in a previous post, curiousity is the main reason I'm here. (To be very honest, I probably won't be around that long - nothing against GC members, it's just that some other random topic will probably spark my interest and I'll move on.) While I'm here, it seems reasonable to ask questions, as long as I avoid bashing people or trolling.

You said, "You know if you belong or not." Is that always true? As an adult, I can look back with 20/20 hindsight and say, "No way," but for an 18-year-old caught up in the excitement of rush, it may be considerably less clear.

[_Q_]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
While a vindictive personality might come out during rush, the only way you're going to be able to spot someone with a substance abuse problem is if you see them slammed at the bar every night after rush ends, since rush is a dry event. Even if a girl discusses alcohol at rush (which I'm pretty sure is a no-no most places), it's impossible to tell if someone has a drinking problem from just talking to them.

I agree that some problems are hard to spot. However, it might be possible to ask questions that could elicit some meaningful information. For example, how does a PNM deal with stress or conflict? Is she concerned about breaking the law? Does she seem to have healthy relationships with other people?

[33girl]

Why did KD put you on national probation?

And why didn't you post this under your original username?

[KSUViolet06]

Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
I would encourage anyone who is interested in greek life to research and ask questions PRIOR to seeking membership. All this de-pledging, leaving chapters madness doesn't make sense to me. Know what you are getting into. Everything will NOT be peaches and cream but if you are serious it can be a rewarding experience. I agree that it takes a particular type of person to join our organizatons but you have to have some sort of understanding of who you are before you come to me seeking membership. Joing XYZ will not always solve/increase your [insert issue here]. JMHO.

I totally agree. I think it was stressed to me by my (NPHC) greek parents to do so, and I did. I'm very glad I did. Unfortunately, many do not.

[_Q_]

Originally posted by 33girl
Why did KD put you on national probation?

And why didn't you post this under your original username?

33girl, I PM'ed you. Essentially, my original username may have been misleading since I'm not really part of a sorority any more. One user expressed concerns about this, so I agreed to use something else. As far as the National Probation, nothing that exciting - just repeated conflicts.

[33girl]

I pmed you back.

[ISUKappa]

No it's not for everyone. And I completley agree with what TheEpitome1920 said. Do your research, ask questions and be thoroughly informed before you decide all the while realizing it's not always going to be a happy sappy Lifetime movie. I know formal recruitment can be difficult--which is part of the reason the NPC is restructuring recruitment to better fit the styles of individual campuses.

Conversely, there are plenty of people out there who never thought they would join a GLO but they tried and did and found they loved it. It's always a different experience for everyone and you can't expect for others to have the same thoughts and feelings on it as you do. (general you)

[Tom Earp]

**DITTO** ISUKAPPA!

When I started a Local, the reason that many joined as it was something new, not eh old line Greeks on Campus.

These mostly were dyed in the wool GDIs.

It seems that Cooky Cutting seems to be the average thought here. It is not but to a certain degree it is. Why, because an Organization wants to put up a solid Front for New Possibles!

Show solidarity.

Do you as a Soroity Memeber want to show your Sisters off in Blue Jeans, Shorts, tank tops or dress nicely?

Look and dress like a slob, that is what you get if anyone!

Remember, most young people are their because they want to be.

It cost a lot to go to College and then add on Greek Dues and other items.

It boils down to what you get out of joining and paying your money for.

Being a Member of a Greek Organization is for life mot 4-5 years.

I just had contacts from Two Of My Chapter Brothers who notified me and got them on the eamil listing to keep them updated.

They saw This in our Int. Magazine.

They are now listed and will be updated ! Can you say the same?