Dating an ex-drug user? - Page 2

LeslieAGD · #16 06-07-2004, 10:24 AM

This obviously bothers you so, if I were you, I would have a talk with him about it. Explain to him that you have questions and see if he'll answer them.

PM_Mama00 · #17 06-07-2004, 11:54 AM

The guy that I was talking to for 2 months (now we're just friends) used to be a user. I guess when I met him 4 years ago, he was using. Actually he told me he had been using since he was like 18 or something (he's 27 now). He did cocaine, smoked weed, extacy, acid. The cutting point for him is when he was high and drunk one night and his fiance (ex now), and then got pulled over and caught with extacy. Now he's undergoing tons of court dates. He's been clean since mid-March and goes to NA meetings.

If he was using when we were talking, it wouldn't bother me. As long as it's not around me (I don't mind marijuana), and it's not endangering my safety or our relationship. Honestly, I'd rather be with someone who was doin drugs then someone who was going out every nite getting drunk. But that's just me.

If he quit, chances are he quit for a good reason. Give the guy a chance... everyone deserves a second chance. Look at my friend... clean for a few months, goes to church, got a job (which yeah will be screwed up if he is convicted of the felony charge for the extacy), finished college and got a business degree at a good university, and regularly attends NA meetings.

cashmoney · #18 06-07-2004, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by CUGreekgirl
I'm begining to date a guy, but his past sort of bothers me. His freshman year of college he went wild and started drinking and doing Exstacy heavily. Then he started smoking up.

I've never tried any sorts of drugs or been around people using any drug except for weed.

He says he has done a 180 with his life and he has happily stopped doing everything like that.

My question is, what exactly sort of experience do you have while on ecstacy? Is it one of the drugs that causes you to want to have sex while you under it. B/c I honestly can't handle a guy who has had lots random hookups.

Any other advice on dating an ex-druggie would be helpful!

I've been really busy lately but I have a few minutes to respond to this one......

As a person who's done more X than you care to know about.....I feel a little inclined to tell you about my experience. So here goes:

More often than not, people for the most part have the same experiences with X. Yes, there may be people out there who have been totally fucked by it and did not like it and it fucked with their heads....but if you ask me those people had mental problems before the X. Most people, while on X (if its good shit and not cut up with speed that much) have good feelings and thoughts going through their mind. For most people it makes you open up a little bit so you can talk about things that would normally bother you or things you would be hesitant to speak about.....such as issues between a boyfriend and a girlfriend. If you ask most couples who have done it together...the most common response is that they felt like they could talk about anything to each other. You'll also hear couples say, after they've done it together, that they feel closer in a way. Honestly, you'll sit there with each other and talk about shit for 8 fucking hours depending on how much you take and how many times thoughout the night. Usually the whole talking to each other and intimate encounter stuff happens when you're chillin at a house. Now, taking it out at a club is a different story. Some people like it and some dont. I liked taking it while out at a club hearing whatever DJ I wanted to hear. I loved rolling my ass off while in Europe at a huge fucking rave/festival with 30,000+ people in attendance. Of course, as I got older, I didnt like going to the big parties as much...but I'll still get down every once I awhile and I still enjoy going to clubs here in the states. usually at a club, rave, festival, you're busy walking around everywhere or dancing your ass off....more often than not you dont have the time or patience to sit down and just talk unless you blowing up really hard. Thats why chillin at you apt or house is so much different than going to a club when you're on X.....it's the atmopshere that creates the type of experience you're going to have on it.

As far as sex goes with X.....this is my story on it....

First time I tried it was in 1998. I thought it was the best thing in the world. Of course back then pills were 10Xs better than the shit thats on the street nowadays. You actually knew it was MDMA because you would not want to drink alcohol again. That was the drugs original design...to help alcoholics quit drinking ( it was legally prescribed to alcoholics in the 80's). For the first couple of years I never wanted to have sex while on X....sex was the furthest thing from my mind back then. When pills started to become shittier and shittier...that changed. People started cutting them up with coke, speed and god knows what else....thats when people started fucking while on it. Coke makes chicks want to fuck...I dont care what anyone on this board will tell you. I've had some of the best "good girls" you'd ever meet do some whacked out crazy sex stuff while on coke. And its not just a wham bam thank you ma'am type of thing...it was more like a 5 hour do the stuff you've only heard about type of thing. That said, when you have pills these days mixed with MDMA, coke and speed (sometimes known as dirty pills) some crazy stuff can happen that night if you and your chick/boy are chillin together at a house. Believe me, I've had those nights. I started having those nights about 3-4 yrs ago every once in awhile. I dont know if you've read any of my stories on GC...but in some posts I've said how I've had sex for up to 9 hours at a time and got off 11 times in one night/day. Well, it's true....and thats how I did it. The drug will make you more comfortable with yourself sexually as well as your partner too. You'll learn a lot about yourself....and your sexual desires.

As far as your boy having lots of hookups.....you're fucking kidding yourself if you think he hasnt hooked up with a lot of chicks while rolling. Unless he was once gay, while rolling you dont have a shitload of guys hanging out eating pills together. Believe me, they had chicks. Worrying about something like that tells me you're young. Maybe you're too young for this guy. If he rolled a lot and was with a lot of chicks ( which he was) and you're worried that he may have hooked up ( that doesnt even mean fucked) a lot of chicks ( which he did )...then you should run from this guy. Plain and simple....unless it was in that 1993-1999 era where pills were actually clean and you knew they were mdma by the reasons I mentioned in the begining of my post....then yes, if he rolled after those years you can bet your ass he hooked up with many chicks and in many cases probably had sex with them. These days with the pills out there now....hooking up and sex is inevitable. It may not happen the first time you two do it...or even the second time....but I gurantee you it will.

In my view there are just as many good reasons to roll as there are bad reasons not to. I honestly think it's really good for a couple to try together. I think that it does wonders for couples. There may be things that are buried deep down in someones heart or wounds that someone has and they havent ever really recovered from it. I honestly think that doing that drug helps you become able to talk about all the shit you need to let go of...and who better to talk to than your significant other?

winneythepooh7 · #19 06-07-2004, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cashmoney
I've been really busy lately but I have a few minutes to respond to this one......

As a person who's done more X than you care to know about.....I feel a little inclined to tell you about my experience. So here goes:

More often than not, people for the most part have the same experiences with X. Yes, there may be people out there who have been totally fucked by it and did not like it and it fucked with their heads....but if you ask me those people had mental problems before the X. Most people, while on X (if its good shit and not cut up with speed that much) have good feelings and thoughts going through their mind. For most people it makes you open up a little bit so you can talk about things that would normally bother you or things you would be hesitant to speak about.....such as issues between a boyfriend and a girlfriend. If you ask most couples who have done it together...the most common response is that they felt like they could talk about anything to each other. You'll also hear couples say, after they've done it together, that they feel closer in a way. Honestly, you'll sit there with each other and talk about shit for 8 fucking hours depending on how much you take and how many times thoughout the night. Usually the whole talking to each other and intimate encounter stuff happens when you're chillin at a house. Now, taking it out at a club is a different story. Some people like it and some dont. I liked taking it while out at a club hearing whatever DJ I wanted to hear. I loved rolling my ass off while in Europe at a huge fucking rave/festival with 30,000+ people in attendance. Of course, as I got older, I didnt like going to the big parties as much...but I'll still get down every once I awhile and I still enjoy going to clubs here in the states. usually at a club, rave, festival, you're busy walking around everywhere or dancing your ass off....more often than not you dont have the time or patience to sit down and just talk unless you blowing up really hard. Thats why chillin at you apt or house is so much different than going to a club when you're on X.....it's the atmopshere that creates the type of experience you're going to have on it.

As far as sex goes with X.....this is my story on it....

First time I tried it was in 1998. I thought it was the best thing in the world. Of course back then pills were 10Xs better than the shit thats on the street nowadays. You actually knew it was MDMA because you would not want to drink alcohol again. That was the drugs original design...to help alcoholics quit drinking ( it was legally prescribed to alcoholics in the 80's). For the first couple of years I never wanted to have sex while on X....sex was the furthest thing from my mind back then. When pills started to become shittier and shittier...that changed. People started cutting them up with coke, speed and god knows what else....thats when people started fucking while on it. Coke makes chicks want to fuck...I dont care what anyone on this board will tell you. I've had some of the best "good girls" you'd ever meet do some whacked out crazy sex stuff while on coke. And its not just a wham bam thank you ma'am type of thing...it was more like a 5 hour do the stuff you've only heard about type of thing. That said, when you have pills these days mixed with MDMA, coke and speed (sometimes known as dirty pills) some crazy stuff can happen that night if you and your chick/boy are chillin together at a house. Believe me, I've had those nights. I started having those nights about 3-4 yrs ago every once in awhile. I dont know if you've read any of my stories on GC...but in some posts I've said how I've had sex for up to 9 hours at a time and got off 11 times in one night/day. Well, it's true....and thats how I did it. The drug will make you more comfortable with yourself sexually as well as your partner too. You'll learn a lot about yourself....and your sexual desires.

As far as your boy having lots of hookups.....you're fucking kidding yourself if you think he hasnt hooked up with a lot of chicks while rolling. Unless he was once gay, while rolling you dont have a shitload of guys hanging out eating pills together. Believe me, they had chicks. Worrying about something like that tells me you're young. Maybe you're too young for this guy. If he rolled a lot and was with a lot of chicks ( which he was) and you're worried that he may have hooked up ( that doesnt even mean fucked) a lot of chicks ( which he did )...then you should run from this guy. Plain and simple....unless it was in that 1993-1999 era where pills were actually clean and you knew they were mdma by the reasons I mentioned in the begining of my post....then yes, if he rolled after those years you can bet your ass he hooked up with many chicks and in many cases probably had sex with them. These days with the pills out there now....hooking up and sex is inevitable. It may not happen the first time you two do it...or even the second time....but I gurantee you it will.

In my view there are just as many good reasons to roll as there are bad reasons not to. I honestly think it's really good for a couple to try together. I think that it does wonders for couples. There may be things that are buried deep down in someones heart or wounds that someone has and they havent ever really recovered from it. I honestly think that doing that drug helps you become able to talk about all the shit you need to let go of...and who better to talk to than your significant other?

Thanks for sharing your story Cashmoney. I've never personally tried X but your post seems really honest and not sugar-coated at all. Sometimes thinking back to college though (or just in general) , I think that ALCOHOL is a dangerous drug when it comes to hooking up and "wild and crazy" behavior. So many people do things while drunk or buzzed and then blame it on the alcohol later.

valkyrie · #20 06-07-2004, 02:43 PM

LOL, I asked Mr. valkyrie about this last night because he's done X and I haven't. He said that he never had sex while on it -- and he wouldn't have been lying because he knows that I wouldn't give a rat's ass if he had.

When it comes down to it, it really just depends on the person.

cashmoney · #21 06-07-2004, 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
LOL, I asked Mr. valkyrie about this last night because he's done X and I haven't. He said that he never had sex while on it -- and he wouldn't have been lying because he knows that I wouldn't give a rat's ass if he had.

When it comes down to it, it really just depends on the person.

Give it a shot Valkyrie....lol....with your sexual drive it'll bring you to a whole new level.

swissmiss04 · #22 06-07-2004, 07:25 PM

If he's a former AND reformed drug user, I'd say he's a safe bet....BUT...if he has an addictive personality then you may be in for him developing an addiction to something else. This something else may be less harmful than drugs, but nonetheless could cause problems in your relationship.
I'm not saying, "Run away and don't give him a chance" but what I am saying is that you need to be vigilant and understanding if something develops on the addiction front.

valkyrie · #23 06-07-2004, 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by cashmoney
Give it a shot Valkyrie....lol....with your sexual drive it'll bring you to a whole new level.

LOL! I've thought about it and maybe will someday.

CUGreekgirl · #24 06-08-2004, 03:59 AM

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As far as your boy having lots of hookups.....you're fucking kidding yourself if you think he hasnt hooked up with a lot of chicks while rolling. Unless he was once gay, while rolling you dont have a shitload of guys hanging out eating pills together. Believe me, they had chicks. Worrying about something like that tells me you're young. Maybe you're too young for this guy. If he rolled a lot and was with a lot of chicks ( which he was) and you're worried that he may have hooked up ( that doesnt even mean fucked) a lot of chicks ( which he did )...then you should run from this guy. Plain and simple....unless it was in that 1993-1999 era where pills were actually clean and you knew they were mdma by the reasons I mentioned in the begining of my post....then yes, if he rolled after those years you can bet your ass he hooked up with many chicks and in many cases probably had sex with them. These days with the pills out there now....hooking up and sex is inevitable. It may not happen the first time you two do it...or even the second time....but I gurantee you it will.

Thanks for sharing you honest story cashmoney.
He did it from about 2001-2003? so i guess it wasn't during the era of clean pills. I'm 20 and he's 21, but its just my personality type that I just can't handle a guy who has fucked a lot of random girls. I talked to a friend of mine last night and she said her ex couldn't "keep it up" when they were having sex b/c of the XTC. So i guess it just depends on the person.

I hate to admit this, but after all I've read about the drug, if I wasn't so scared, it would be something i would like to try once or twice, not at a rave, but in a private setting with a boyfriend.

cashmoney · #25 06-08-2004, 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by CUGreekgirl
Thanks for sharing you honest story cashmoney.
He did it from about 2001-2003? so i guess it wasn't during the era of clean pills. I'm 20 and he's 21, but its just my personality type that I just can't handle a guy who has fucked a lot of random girls. I talked to a friend of mine last night and she said her ex couldn't "keep it up" when they were having sex b/c of the XTC. So i guess it just depends on the person.

I hate to admit this, but after all I've read about the drug, if I wasn't so scared, it would be something i would like to try once or twice, not at a rave, but in a private setting with a boyfriend.

One of the most common side effects is that you can't keep it up (this is especially true when guys do coke). I had the same problem. Believe me, you'll be giving a lot of head to keep your man going...either that or if you do decide to do it make sure that he can get his hands on some Levitra or Viagra. Luckily I don't need either of those...give me a 5 minute break here and there with a little monster head and I was good to go.

Oh, and I totally feel you on the being scared thing. My fiance was the same way. Did you ever watch that thing on ABC news that peter jennings did about the drug? He talked about how the goverment and the media portrayed this harmuful image of the drug but after digging around they found out that they lied about the harmful effects and basically tried to scare the youth of the country in to not doing it since it was becoming so popular. A lot of the so called "studies" were found to be complete bullshit. It was interesting to watch on the news. I read the article Jennings wrote himself and it was even more interesting.

Optimist Prime · #26 06-08-2004, 11:39 AM

Okay...so he went from drinking/X to smoking up? That is not that bad. That is actully a step backwards on the drug chain. Remember, he was a FRESHMAN in COLLEGE when did this, so if you like him, you should date him.

Rudey · #27 06-12-2004, 03:37 AM

I didn't know anyone that wanted sex on mollies, e, or coke unless they parachuted with viagra but whatever.

-Ruidey