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Old 05-06-2004, 03:05 PM
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Re: senior moment...TNE con'td

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So, additional friendships were made in the college
scene...no prancers, no limpdicks, no weenies...back when we could call a man a "hail fellow, well-met."
I think I want to add that to my signature -- no prancers, no limpdicks, no weenies. Sounds like a good philosophy for life, no?
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Old 05-06-2004, 03:18 PM
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Re: Re: senior moment...TNE con'td

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I think I want to add that to my signature -- no prancers, no limpdicks, no weenies. Sounds like a good philosophy for life, no?
lol


I've seen a TNE web page before, it sounded like they were making themselves sound more elite than they were.
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Old 05-06-2004, 03:38 PM
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Re: Re: Re: senior moment...TNE con'td

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I've seen a TNE web page before, it sounded like they were making themselves sound more elite than they were.
Yeah, I saw that too years ago. They didn't allow women to join but they offered a similar organization called Rho Delta.
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Old 05-06-2004, 04:47 PM
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Damn...All this TNE talk is pretty interesting...The Greek System at my school is kind of weak, sounds like I need to start up some trouble here!
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Old 05-06-2004, 04:52 PM
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Re: wrong again, Russ

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Theta Nu Epsilon was never called ONE...other than by folks who
knew nothing of it and even less about greek letters. The O must
be an attempt at Theta without the crossbar....duh.
TNE is on the web, all you have to do is type it in
TNE, to my knowledge, has nothing on earth to do with the Order
of the Omega, which on at least some campuses, is a bona-fide
organization with many applicants seeking entry.
TNE never, that I ever heard of, required inductees to spill their guts about their rituals. There were other important and fun things to do. The Nebraska tale is pure bullshit.
TNE had sub-rosa chapters at both Kansas and Kansas State.
Sometimes TNE was called "Teens", and many old yearbooks
have a composite, photos of houses, etc. The Theta Nu Epsilon
site, I believe, has pix. The organization now is just a money maker's attempt at capitalizing on fraternalism and intrigue. I have seen, on the net, a page on the outfit, but Greek Pages has
it, too, but not without having to fill out more information than one might want...whatever.
There have been a goodly number of sub-rosa groups from time
to time..crop up on various campi, and some have tried to align
themselves, unsuccessfully, with Theta Nu Epsilon.
TNE was founded as a sophomore class society in 1870 at Wesleyan. The governing of the fraternity, nationally, was so
loose that the poor reputation induced many chapters to join
other nationals. Attempts at reorganization failed and TNE was
down to five chapters by the outset of World War II. Check Baird's for a rather melancholy historical treatise of TNE
TNE, while adversarial at times, was as a rule, highly respectful
of the NIC-fraternity rituals. I know of a couple of fraternities which have a specific vow about joing Theta Nu Epsilon and the
consequences. There was another one, at Nebraska in the 50s
called Pi Xi, and it had no contact with TNE at all; it was a poor
imitation. The symbolism of TNE is just part of the attractiveness
and members were generally of the highest calibre I've been told.
Unfortunately, Theta Nu Epsilon has lost some of its luster and
has, kinda, been put to bed...'nite all
1) I never said that they were called "ONE."
2) How do you know that the Nebraska tale is BS? Are you a member of TNE? Also, I didn't state it as fact, but as an allegation.
3) How do you know that the members were of the highest caliber? If so, the organization would probably have had a continuous existance, without the schizm that may, or may not exist today.
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Old 05-07-2004, 10:45 AM
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no further comment, perhaps we will simply agree to disagree
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Old 09-07-2005, 05:46 PM
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Up for an interesting historical discussion.
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:19 PM
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Very interesting stuff. A quick look at Google produced a TNE chapter picture from Dickinson (caption below), a link to the Fraternity Collection at Illinois (I know both Stewart Howe and Bill Bingham donated their collections there), and a U. AL article exposing TNE.

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University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Archives: Holdings Database
Campus Units > Student Affairs > Student Organizations-Residence Fraternities > Theta Nu Epsilon Records

Theta Nu Epsilon Records, 1910-1923

Record Series Number: 41/71/589
Volume: 0.8 cubic feet
Arrangement: Alpha

Description: Records of Theta Nu Epsilon social fraternity including constitutions (1910, 1913, 1920), correspondence, initiation forms, membership lists, minutes (1912), petitions (1911-12), photographs, reports (1915-17), and Theta Nu Epsilon Quarterly (1912-16, fraternity magazine) concerning Theta Nu Epsilon chapters, conventions, finances, government, and members. These were the records of Clarence J. Hand, the fraternity's historian from 1910-23. Founded at Wesleyan University in 1870, Theta Nu Epsilon was primarily a social fraternity for sophomores that accepted members of other fraternities. It fell into disrepute early and many of it's chapters were banned from campuses, but continued to exist sub rosa. See Baird's Manual (1991) for more details.

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The Pi Pi Chapter of the Theta Nu Epsilon Society was established at Dickinson College in 1887._ Theta Nu Epsilon selected its members from among those in fraternities at the college and the law school, and occasionally accepted non fraternity students as well._ The TNE adage, "Little is known and what is known is kept secret" aptly describes the Society whose chapter at Dickinson may have dissolved in 1905, the last year in which any mention appears in the college yearbook.

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IVA board claims proof of Machine

By Philip A. Sitton
Senior Staff Reporter
March 06, 2002

A bulletin board in the Ferguson Center now holds what Independent Voters Association Chairman John Beasley calls "proof that the Machine exists on our campus" for public display.

Beasley said the IVA-reserved bulletin board display bears paraphernalia claiming to be from the secretive greek organization Theta Nu Epsilon, locally known as the Machine. The Machine is a select coalition of traditionally white fraternities and sororities designed to influence campus politics.

The board, set up Monday night, displays an information sheet entitled "Theta Nu Epsilon, Alive and Well at UA," and a T-shirt bearing the greek letters.

The flier, which says it was published in 1989, makes several bold statements about Theta Nu Epsilon's prominence on campus.

"We are proud of our history at the University," it says. "Theta Nu Epsilon has elected an SGA president 68 times in the 75 years of the SGA's existence. This is because the SGA is ours. Our brethren formed it in 1914."

IVA Executive Director Jeff Jensen said this board helps to prove the Machine is present on the University campus.

"I think that [information] and the large bloc vote you see time after time proves their existence," he said.

Jensen said Theta Nu Epsilon shirts are not incredibly uncommon, and he has seen them before. Many of the shirts feature the organization's seal, a skull with crossed keys.

"There's a lot of shirts with the skull and keys. They're usually older shirts," he said. "You have to look for them."

Student reaction to the board seems mixed. Bradley Horton, a junior majoring in management information systems, did not seem to think much of the information.

"I truly wish the IVA would develop a platform that didn't primarily consist of anti-greek propaganda," he said.

Junior biology major Carson Bedingfield said she already knew the Machine existed.

"I didn't have any doubt that the Machine existed beforehand," Bedingfield said. "From experience, the independent candidates have never really stood a chance, because whoever the Machine supports is going to be elected."

Jensen said a lot of people who are currently in the Student Government Association walk by the display and laugh, but others find it interesting.

"A lot of people have told me they thought it was a good idea," Beasley said. "One person even called it a 'ball-buster.' It sure does open your eyes."

Jensen also pointed out www.tne.org, which claims to be the official Web site of Theta Nu Epsilon. As of press time, the University is listed on its "chapter" page, and its home page features cryptic language strongly reminiscent of past situations at the University.

"In the 1990's a major Southern university's SGA was banned," it says. "Was this due to the 'devil's own?' When elections were held after the reinstatment (sic) of the SGA ... guess who won?!"

Asked the origin of the paraphernalia, Beasley said only that it came from an alumnus.
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