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04-13-2004, 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by jubilance1922
Zetagymnast, the former sweetheart orgs for the NPHC fraternities and sororities are now separate organizations. So for example, Kappa Sweethearts are now called KKI (Krimson Kourt Inc.). The same applies for Alpha Angels, Sigma Doves, Que Pearls, as well as the male auxillaries (though they are not as prevalent). While these organizations are separate on paper, many people on both sides still recognize their bond.
I personally do not see the need for these organizations, especially after they were banned in 90's.
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Yeah I believe Sigma Doves are now Dove, Inc. BOOOOOOO
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04-13-2004, 10:29 AM
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Oye..why is this topic still brought up?
Here's my campus' definition:
Lil Sis- girls who hang out w/the fraternity (not allowed to wear letters)
Sweetheart- Pinned (fraternity engagement), allowed to wear her boyfriend's letters
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04-13-2004, 10:32 AM
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I am a sweetheart.. well i was when i was in undergrad,
and it was fun. We worked hard and were well respected on the yard...
I think the sweet experince varies from campus to campus and org to org.
Because our big brothers made sure that we were all LADIES
and no hanky panky was going on.. i.e. we were not their personal "on call girls"
most of the sweets i came in with went on to NPHC orgs, which is why we became sweets in the first place. It was a good steping stone.
They dont have them at my school any more... but it was fun when we did have them
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04-13-2004, 10:37 AM
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I personally don't see their purpose. And no one has been able to explain their relevance to me so I give a thumbs down.
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oh lawd we have had this discussion...
it varies from chapter to chapter...
we helped the bruhs with parties, clean up, etc
we also had service hour requirment to stay active....
but that is what we did at our chapter
dont hate....
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04-13-2004, 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by Diva06Sweet
oh lawd we have had this discussion...
it varies from chapter to chapter...
we helped the bruhs with parties, clean up, etc
we also had service hour requirment to stay active....
but that is what we did at our chapter
dont hate....
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Diva, you seem a bit hostile, like you need to defend yourself. No one is attacking you. If you are proud of what you did, then be proud. One of my prophytes was a Kappa Sweetheart. Even though I don't agree with them, does that make me love her any less? No!
I think the question is this: why do you need to "help" these men? Why can't they do that themselves, I mean, isn't that what brotherhood is for? Why do you need to follow behind men to do service?
And please don't get defensive, just help me to understand your point of view.
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04-13-2004, 10:41 AM
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from my understanding the sweethearts and the aux of the NPHC where a lil different back pre 1990
i need to find that divine nine book i think there was a passage or 2 in there about it
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04-13-2004, 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by jubilance1922
Diva, you seem a bit hostile, like you need to defend yourself. No one is attacking you. If you are proud of what you did, then be proud. One of my prophytes was a Kappa Sweetheart. Even though I don't agree with them, does that make me love her any less? No!
I think the question is this: why do you need to "help" these men? Why can't they do that themselves, I mean, isn't that what brotherhood is for? Why do you need to follow behind men to do service?
And please don't get defensive, just help me to understand your point of view.
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I am not hostile i know TheEpitome1920 personally...
and we have talked about sweethearts before.
We didnt follow around behind the brothers, we generally helped them with things they really could not do... did we clean the frat house.. no not even... but we did help set up for parties, or would sell refreshements at the parties.
And the way that my campus worked being a sweet of the alphas was one of the best ways to get picked up for Delta... the AKA's hated us...
like i said before each yard is different, each org is different and each chapter is different....
my bf is a zeta knight... not sure what they did for the zetas though
Last edited by Diva06Sweet; 04-13-2004 at 10:52 AM.
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04-13-2004, 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by Diva06Sweet
oh lawd we have had this discussion...
it varies from chapter to chapter...
we helped the bruhs with parties, clean up, etc
we also had service hour requirment to stay active....
but that is what we did at our chapter
dont hate....
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And you know how I feel about them in regards to a particular organization.
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04-13-2004, 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by Diva06Sweet
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I am not hostile i know TheEpitome1920 personally...
and we have talked about sweethearts before.
We didnt follow around behind the brothers, we generally helped them with things they really could not do... did we clean the frat house.. no not even... but we did help set up for parties, or would sell refreshements at the parties.
And the way that my campus worked being a sweet of the alphas was one of the best ways to get picked up for Delta... the AKA's hated us...
like i said before each yard is different, each org is different and each chapter is different....
my bf is a zeta knight... not sure what they did for the zetas though
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I'm sorry, but I don't understand how grown men CAN'T sell refreshments or set up for a party...but maybe its just me....
Anything that Sigma Gamma Rho needs done, we can do it ourselves, and I personally don't think we need men to help us on a regular basis. If anything, it makes me lazy, knowing that someone is there to pick up my slack. Doing a collaboration with another group is one thing, but having a permanent "help" group is quite another.
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04-13-2004, 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
And you know how I feel about them in regards to a particular organization.
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yeah i know you still my girl though lol
hey we dont like them either *laffs*
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04-13-2004, 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by jubilance1922
I'm sorry, but I don't understand how grown men CAN'T sell refreshments or set up for a party...but maybe its just me....
Anything that Sigma Gamma Rho needs done, we can do it ourselves, and I personally don't think we need men to help us on a regular basis. If anything, it makes me lazy, knowing that someone is there to pick up my slack. Doing a collaboration with another group is one thing, but having a permanent "help" group is quite another.
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I've heard that at University of Illinois Rhomeos are a big thing. That's the only time I've heard of an active group for a sorority. I've never seen a Zeta Knight and would like to know what they're about.
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04-13-2004, 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by jubilance1922
I'm sorry, but I don't understand how grown men CAN'T sell refreshments or set up for a party...but maybe its just me....
Anything that Sigma Gamma Rho needs done, we can do it ourselves, and I personally don't think we need men to help us on a regular basis. If anything, it makes me lazy, knowing that someone is there to pick up my slack. Doing a collaboration with another group is one thing, but having a permanent "help" group is quite another.
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had you attended tuskegee you might understand
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04-13-2004, 10:58 AM
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I've heard that at University of Illinois Rhomeos are a big thing. That's the only time I've heard of an active group for a sorority. I've never seen a Zeta Knight and would like to know what they're about.
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I'm not there, so I wouldn't know anything about them. And if I saw them, I would ask them the exact same questions...
But to each its own...
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04-13-2004, 01:25 PM
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*Finger Raised*
My friend is an Alpha Angel, she told me that it was a "Stepping Stone" as well to the group of her choice. *Shrug*
But my Greek friends tell me that being involved in these groups actually hurt your chances of being picked up by an org.
Thoughts?
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04-13-2004, 01:51 PM
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ok... i don't know what you call this but it happened on our campus:
a member of a national sorority (maybe a sweetheart or bf of a member in the fraternity) went around to all the other sororities (us included) and was in charge of setting up a "big sis" for the new members of the fraternity. The new members got gifts, had the sidewalk chalked, etc. And some of my sisters did it. And I know there is a national sorority that does this on a regular basis for ANOTHER fraternity. I have seen big chalk displays of "hey bobby joe, your big sis loves you... Go XYZ!" and so on.
I don't think it goes beyond getting the guy gifts and chalking the sidewalk, and I don't think my girls really hang out that much with the lil bros... (I don't see them giving letters out and whatnot.)
I know we are kinda excempt because we are local/regional... but what do you call all of this????
I mean we were lil sis's to Delta Chi at one point but in our history, we formed the sorority when all the sister programs were cut.
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