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Old 04-12-2004, 06:23 PM
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Tom, that last line contained way more detail than we ever needed to know.

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Old 04-12-2004, 10:24 PM
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One post and zippity do da! Up, Up and away!

Bite my butt sweety, you are like all of the rest! BS runs down hill and we arent buying it!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That just made my night!
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Old 04-13-2004, 10:15 PM
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I understand most of you guys are pissed about the book "Pledged", but think about this....The sisters that Robbins followed in her book gave her permission to follow them and know their secrets. Robbins simply wrote what she saw. If you want to be mad at someone be mad at the girls who let the media person into their lives, not Robbins.
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Old 04-14-2004, 12:04 AM
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I understand most of you guys are pissed about the book "Pledged", but think about this....The sisters that Robbins followed in her book gave her permission to follow them and know their secrets. Robbins simply wrote what she saw. If you want to be mad at someone be mad at the girls who let the media person into their lives, not Robbins.

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Old 04-14-2004, 01:10 AM
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I understand most of you guys are pissed about the book "Pledged", but think about this....The sisters that Robbins followed in her book gave her permission to follow them and know their secrets. Robbins simply wrote what she saw. If you want to be mad at someone be mad at the girls who let the media person into their lives, not Robbins.
But the four women she "shadowed" didn't know she was a media person, didn't know she was going to use this to write a "tell-all" book. They just thought she was a normal person, from what I gathered. The author even admits in the prologue that had she made her intentions clear to these girls they would most likely not have been as open and as candid as they were.

After glancing through it today at B&N, I just have to at it. It's nothing new--she brings up the same old stuff that's been dredged up before. It's really a dialogue of what any college student could experience during her time in school. It's overly sensationalized because it deals with the sororities. Most of her examples are things she garnered from old articles and other media. She just spins it to fit her book.
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Old 04-14-2004, 12:30 PM
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But the four women she "shadowed" didn't know she was a media person, didn't know she was going to use this to write a "tell-all" book. They just thought she was a normal person, from what I gathered. The author even admits in the prologue that had she made her intentions clear to these girls they would most likely not have been as open and as candid as they were.
Oh, that's underhanded.
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Old 04-14-2004, 12:50 PM
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The girls most definitely did know who Robbins was. She says "I can't divulge how the four girls I chose, who knew they would be the main characters in a book I was writing about sororities, introduced me to sisters, who did not know;" Therefore the main characters in the book DID know that she was an author, and are the ones you should be mad at. Read the book before you make judgements.
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Old 04-14-2004, 01:08 PM
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The girls most definitely did know who Robbins was. She says "I can't divulge how the four girls I chose, who knew they would be the main characters in a book I was writing about sororities, introduced me to sisters, who did not know;" Therefore the main characters in the book DID know that she was an author, and are the ones you should be mad at. Read the book before you make judgements.
I read enough of the book to know it's not worth my time. There is a large difference between telling someone you're an author and telling someone you're going to write an expose on sorority life. We do not know how she approached those girls. We don't know what she told them she was writing about. And in any organization you're going to be able to find someone who has enough bad feelings for the org that they are willing to take part in something such as this if the author did made her intentions known. Those attitudes are reflected in the author's writing, and cannot be seen as a typical view of that chapter or organization. And I repeat, sensationalism.
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Old 04-14-2004, 01:31 PM
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I agree that perhaps Robbins did find girls who had enough negative feelings toward their chapter that they came out in interviews. I just don't think that all the blame can be put on Robbins when so many interviews were conducted where sisters divulged information.
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Old 04-14-2004, 01:57 PM
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Oh I don't think she should get all the blame, either. The girls should have practiced a little more discrection (hey, have they been hanging out on GC lately??) but I also question the guise in which Ms. Robbins introduced her intentions.

I also find it quite dishonorable that she would reveal some of the information that she did, especially in relation to ritual. As a member of a secret org herself (Scroll and Keys) I would hope she would have slightly more tact than that, even with the thinly disguised veil of research. But maybe that's just me.
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Old 04-14-2004, 02:09 PM
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Just to put this book in perspective...look at the endnotes (which I did over lunch). A great deal of the comments on the "behavior rules" are from a book on Rush that is almost 20 years old and authored by a former rush captain (i.e. when she wrote it she was out of school, so most of what she says is probably from 1982 or so) from U of Texas, which definitely isn't a "typical" school. I've read that book and it was like reading a fantasy novel...it certainly didn't pertain to my sorority life, even in the 1980's.

Not to mention the Ibid after Ibid from our good friends Melody Twilley and another person whose name I can't mention who has little to no credibility.

Oh, and ISUKappa, don't worry about the ritual stuff. She got mine completely wrong, I'm sure she missed the mark with the rest as well. Sorry no cookie!
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Old 04-14-2004, 02:11 PM
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Oh, and ISUKappa, don't worry about the ritual stuff. She got mine completely wrong, I'm sure she missed the mark with the rest as well. Sorry no cookie!
She probably got her information of the website that tells us that Pi Beta Phi means "pierced by fire"
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Old 04-14-2004, 02:14 PM
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lol LadyPiPhi .. now there's some real investigative reporting!!!!

interesting how robbins has dissappeared.
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Old 04-14-2004, 02:24 PM
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Just to put this book in perspective...look at the endnotes (which I did over lunch). A great deal of the comments on the "behavior rules" are from a book on Rush that is almost 20 years old and authored by a former rush captain (i.e. when she wrote it she was out of school, so most of what she says is probably from 1982 or so) from U of Texas, which definitely isn't a "typical" school. I've read that book and it was like reading a fantasy novel...it certainly didn't pertain to my sorority life, even in the 1980's.

Not to mention the Ibid after Ibid from our good friends Melody Twilley and another person whose name I can't mention who has little to no credibility.

Oh, and ISUKappa, don't worry about the ritual stuff. She got mine completely wrong, I'm sure she missed the mark with the rest as well. Sorry no cookie!
You were able to read all the endnotes over lunch--did you take a two-hour one? I looked through them last night, too. Gah. At least she's attributing. She is the Queen of Taken Out Of Context.

And I'm sure that most, if not all, of her ritual info is wrong, especially considering one of her resources was that website. But just the fact that she put in the info (correct or not) shows her complete lack of respect and journalistic integrity.
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Old 04-14-2004, 02:26 PM
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You were able to read all the endnotes over lunch--did you take a two-hour one? I looked through them last night, too. Gah. At least she's attributing. She is the Queen of Taken Out Of Context.

And I'm sure that most, if not all, of her ritual info is wrong, especially considering one of her resources was that website. But just the fact that she put in the info (correct or not) shows her complete lack of respect and journalistic integrity.
Are you serious. She really did use that website??

I was only joking!
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