Ex-Gang Members?

[Rudey]

Originally posted by ChaosDST
No one said your past "means nothing." You past determines alot, but most of the things in your life are determined by your social position (specifically race, class, and gender). But, we're talking about PAST gang members. Many gang members join in their pre-teens and middle teens. HINT: Juvenile delinquency records are sealed after a certain point...for a reason.

Someone being a PAST gang members does not dictate whether or not they should be in a fraternity or sorority (with the assumption that they have resembled the "membership criteria" and express that they are no longer gang affiliated).

We don't run criminal checks on our members. But their past dictates their character. If you don't care, then don't care but for me it matters.

-Rudey

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by Rudey
This must be the reason that some Greeks want to beat someone down for "wearing their letters".

-Rudey
--We have enough of a risk to deal with without criminals, thugs, and the like.

Agree. I didn't join a thug support group, I joined a sisterhood.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by deuika
tehetehe...Uhhhh, please go somewhere with that mess.
People kill me with this superiority complex, I'm a part of some groups too, Wooooo I know what Mu Alpha Theta means.

I will respond to whatever I choose, you could always ignore me. I ask questions, I respond to questions. I'm not on here seeking to soak up Greek knowledge, I have a different aim, but then again that is of no concern to you.

Anywhodolini, Deuika doesn't do arguments, that's for simple minds, have fun.

Deuika doesn't do thinking either. This isn't an argument. You are NOT Greek and know nothing about what Greeks do.

You can ask questions and people will answer. Anything more, and people like me will feel free to respond and remind you that you are nothing. That isn't an argument.

-Rudey
--I'm not Greek, but I'm in groups...hilarious.

[Rudey]

I'm waiting until this turns into a racial thread.

-Rudey
--That would make my day

[ChaosDST]

Originally posted by Rudey
We don't run criminal checks on our members. But their past dictates their character. If you don't care, then don't care but for me it matters.

-Rudey

I'm sure you don't.

So, someone being in a gang is VOLUNTEERED information. Just like someone having warrants against them is VOLUNTEERED information. Ummmmm, what about potentials who have had a number of DUIs...or have been in jail for public disorder? Welllll, looks like there are quite a few things that happen in people's past. Matter of fact, some of these latter things happen in people's present. Who would've guessed your newest fraternity brother would just LOOOOVE to drink and drive...was there something in his PAST that told you that?

Hey, dude...don't get all sensitive with me I care that you care...we can all care and share together

[deuika]

Originally posted by Rudey
Deuika doesn't do thinking either. This isn't an argument. You are NOT Greek and know nothing about what Greeks do.

You can ask questions and people will answer. Anything more, and people like me will feel free to respond and remind you that you are nothing. That isn't an argument.

-Rudey
--I'm not Greek, but I'm in groups...hilarious.

tehetehe...Dude, have you ever met me?
How do you know what I know about Greek Life, don't believe everything you read.

That Is All
You Be Good Now, Someone Loves You, Somewhere

[ChaosDST]

Originally posted by Rudey
I'm waiting until this turns into a racial thread.

-Rudey
--That would make my day

Okay, just to make your day:

I think there's a difference in how people see whites in gangs versus minorities in gangs. More specifically, whites in gangs are more viewed as doing "wild and crazy things as part of their youth" versus minorities are viewed as the "future criminals of America." This extends to the behaviors of youth who are not in gangs, as well.

But, that's off topic. Just ignore me

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by ChaosDST
Okay, just to make your day:

I think there's a difference in how people see whites in gangs versus minorities in gangs. More specifically, whites in gangs are more viewed as doing "wild and crazy things as part of their youth" versus minorities are viewed as the "future criminals of America." This extends to the behaviors of youth who are not in gangs, as well.

But, that's off topic. Just ignore me

All the white people I've seen in gangs have been in a "minority gang," I don't think there's a lot of white gang activity, unless you consider all the 13 y/o kids in their matching 'crombie outfits to be in a gang.

[ChaosDST]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Agree. I didn't join a thug support group, I joined a sisterhood.

"Thug support group." Interesting. Your "sisters" could have a past (and a present) that would surprise you.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by ChaosDST
I'm sure you don't.

So, someone being in a gang is VOLUNTEERED information. Just like someone having warrants against them is VOLUNTEERED information. Ummmmm, what about potentials who have had a number of DUIs...or have been in jail for public disorder? Welllll, looks like there are quite a few things that happen in people's past. Matter of fact, some of these latter things happen in people's present. Who would've guessed your newest fraternity brother would just LOOOOVE to drink and drive...was there something in his PAST that told you that?

Hey, dude...don't get all sensitive with me I care that you care...we can all care and share together

You're being silly and stating obvious things. Their past isn't one event. Everyone has made mistakes. But it's not just one mistake that determines everything. By the time someone gets to college they will have, on average, 18 years of a past. The more recent years will matter more. The bad things they've done depend on the severity. And it's not just the bad, but the good.

If I alone were making the decision on them, I would cut them hard if I even thought they'd present a risk to me because I don't want to see "Johnny McThug was caught snorting lines after beating up the dean because he didn't like the fact that he wore his former gang colors. Johnny McThug is also a member of...."

-Rudey

[TheEpitome1920]

I only looked away for 2 seconds...wha happened, lol.

[ChaosDST]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
All the white people I've seen in gangs have been in a "minority gang," I don't think there's a lot of white gang activity, unless you consider all the 13 y/o kids in their matching 'crombie outfits to be in a gang.

Of course, people would think there isn't a lot of "white gang activity." That fits well with the stereotypes of gangs that people have. Even Hollywood (as inaccurate is it tends to be) has reminded us that there are a lot of "white" gangs out there, in both the suburbs and the inner city. Hollywood is correct, but, again...these "white" gangs are virtually harmless. Eh?

[deuika]

People are obviously confused on what gangs truly are. There are more gangs than the Bloods and the Crips, gangs have existed for hundreds of years. And there are plenty of "majorities" in gangs.

FYI...This has nothing to do with GREEK affiliation for all you Superior Greeks out there. My inferior GDI behind actually knows what a gang is.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by ChaosDST
Of course, people would think there isn't a lot of "white gang activity." That fits well with the stereotypes of gangs that people have. Even Hollywood (as inaccurate is it tends to be) has reminded us that there are a lot of "white" gangs out there, in both the suburbs and the inner city. Hollywood is correct, but, again...these "white" gangs are virtually harmless. Eh?

What white gangs did you know? And who said they were harmless? You want gangs in your neighborhood fine, but white, black, native american...I don't care. I don't want gangs of any color or religious denomination in my neighborhood.

-Rudey

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by ChaosDST
"Thug support group." Interesting. Your "sisters" could have a past (and a present) that would surprise you.

Not in my chapter, they don't. We know. It's how our "process" works.