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04-06-2004, 10:56 PM
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I have decided thats its your fault deuika . . .
Everyone pay heed! Its deuika's fault that not all people have a six-pack for abs . . stone her
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Originally posted by deuika
I never said there was NO responsibility to be placed on the overweight person. But no one knows everyone's situation, generalizations are just plain wrong.
PhiPsiRuss...Congrats on the weight lost 
My point is simply "If you don't know, you don't know."
Which kindly means unless you have dealings with every overweight person in the country, you really don't know.
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04-06-2004, 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by James
I have decided thats its your fault deuika . . .
Everyone pay heed! Its deuika's fault that not all people have a six-pack for abs . . stone her
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I agree. The great San Francisco earthquake of 1905 was deukia's fault too.
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04-06-2004, 11:11 PM
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tehetehe
Just don't tell Rumsfield, They may put me on the "Watch List"
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04-06-2004, 11:28 PM
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Originally posted by James:
Everyone pay heed! Its deuika's fault that not all people have a six-pack for abs . . stone her
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I didn't know deuika was female. Anyway, was just posting to say your post James reminded me of Monty Python and the Life of Brian!
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04-07-2004, 11:22 PM
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For most people, it's their fault. (well, children excepted) There are some people where it is genetics etc... and some people are just meant to be bigger - not everyone is meant to be slim-slim.
I'm overweight right now.
I need to lose weight.
I'm not going whine and say poor me.
I know what I have to do to lose weight, and one day I'll do it. (umm, after graduation - school stress is a killer for my gym/diet schedule - my fault of course)
However, call me fat and I'll still want to hurt you.
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04-08-2004, 04:36 AM
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Why does MOM have to cook? Why can't dad get off of his lazy a$$ and cook something. Just because I have ovaries and uterus does not mean I like or want to cook.
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04-08-2004, 09:30 AM
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04-08-2004, 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by aggieAXO
Why does MOM have to cook? Why can't dad get off of his lazy a$$ and cook something. Just because I have ovaries and uterus does not mean I like or want to cook.
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If Tom cooks the same way he posts, I don't think I'll be trying his paint chip and cow brain omelette any time soon.
Unless he gave me a box of Cubans....
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04-08-2004, 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
If Tom cooks the same way he posts, I don't think I'll be trying his paint chip and cow brain omelette any time soon.
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LOL agreed....
But seriously, unless you are being held hostage, you have control over what goes in your mouth. If you can't afford healthier food, you can't afford it...but it is still your (I don't think the word 'fault' applies, I'll agree w/ James and say 'responsibility')you're fat. Ultimately it is you putting xyz into your body.
What about this...let's say you're sick for half of senior year, and as a result you don't go to school much and fail your classes. You didn't try to be sick, so it's not your 'fault', per se....but is it someone elses fault? No. You might not have done it deliberately but you had control over going or not going to school. The blame or responsiblity falls on you.
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04-09-2004, 02:22 PM
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Hormonal problems aren't the overwhelming reason for obesity in this country--you'd have a hard time believing it, what with so many people blaming their weight on hormones or thyroidal problems.
I see classmates of mine who, in one minute complain about how they need to lose weight, and then will eat a Rice Krispies treat and a Mountain Dew--for breakfast. Those things are certainly cheaper than getting a piece of fruit and bottled water--but seriously. So much of health maintenance is all about RESPONSIBILITY.
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04-14-2004, 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by Munchkin03
Hormonal problems aren't the overwhelming reason for obesity in this country--you'd have a hard time believing it, what with so many people blaming their weight on hormones or thyroidal problems.
I see classmates of mine who, in one minute complain about how they need to lose weight, and then will eat a Rice Krispies treat and a Mountain Dew--for breakfast. Those things are certainly cheaper than getting a piece of fruit and bottled water--but seriously. So much of health maintenance is all about RESPONSIBILITY.
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Totally agree with you!!! I eat healthy 99% of the time, even more so than I did when I lived at home with my mom who told me what I could and could not eat. I watch what I eat now b/c *I* want to, not b/c someone is making me. But I still go out just about every weekend and drink my weight in alcohol (or somewhere close to it anyway  ) so that pretty much cancels out all my exercise and healthy eating I do during the week. Yeah if I quit drinking so much I'd probably lose a lot of weight, but frankly I don't care enough to do that right now, but it's my fault if my butt gets too big, not the beer's fault.
Being fat is not something anyone enjoys and while I understand that it's genetic or caused by an illness sometimes, the majority of the time it's just b/c we eat what tastes yummy and cheap, excercising is not as easy as sitting on the couch and watching TV, and just by basically being irresponsible. I am guilty of this, and so is about 90% of the rest of the world. I wish everyone would just quit blaming everything that goes wrong with them on something else and just suck it up and come to terms with it already.
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04-14-2004, 01:37 AM
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my favorite thing dealing with this whole "blame" thing is that commercial for that new diet pill where the guy/"doctor"/QUACK says that new studies "prove it's not your fault you're fat"....but that it's b/c of a hormone..... so, i just have a HORMONE problem?! and your lil white pill will FIX THAT?!?! YIPPEEEEE! and all this time i thought i was maintaining my weight by drinking a diet coke with my burger and fries....i wondered why i had to LAY DOWN to button my pants........ uh......no.
ppl are so stupid, and so willing to believe anything as long as they are not to blame.
shEEsh!
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04-14-2004, 02:53 PM
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You hit the nail on the head... No one wants to take responsibility for their actions. Now, this is our problem as Americans... Everyone is so detached... I am not saying that ALL overweight people are to blame for their weight, there are probably many exceptions, but to think that everyone who is overweight has a hormone imbalance is preposterous. People need to eat more moderately and get a good deal of exercise, and they will be fine. It is as simple as that. No one needs to cut a bunch of stuff out of their diet, or take any weird pills... Work Out, then you will look good.
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04-15-2004, 11:09 AM
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Not to be insensitive, but if you're getting fat, its your own fault.
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04-15-2004, 06:21 PM
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I also think a lot has to do with not only what you're eating but how much. Portion sizes are out of control in this country. Compare fast food restaurants around the world: A large fry and drink at a McDonalds in England are the equivalent to a medium fry and drink in the US and people still complain it's too small. Bigger does not always equal better in the food world. And many people don't actually realize how many calories they're really taking in.
It wasn't until I started keeping a food diary that I started losing weight and I had to write it down, no matter what. Even if it was a giant KitKat bar and a 64oz Pepsi, it went in the book. It made me accountable for everything I was putting in my mouth
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