embarrassed

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Rudey, you're mean. Nuff said.

Taualumna,

I am actually very nice. But I am not in the business of sniffing your arse to make you think I am.

Additionally, Your convoluted ideas on the requirements of a good parent being one that owns a plantation and has a carriage as well as your talented use of the English language to mutter phrases such as "Nuff said" do not impress me.

-Rudey
--Aiite?

[justamom]

What I would like to see is a thread that focuses on-

What's so great about your candidate?

A thread where instead of BASHING a candidate...like the numerous threads that end up bashing bush...you put it out there why you DO support whoever it is you are supporting. Give the damn platform, not gibberish that is regurgitated from whatever conservative/liberal sources you follow.

[AlethiaSi]

justamom- your right and this is definately something MY mom would say- thanks for keeping things in perspective....

i was just ranting about the state of our government- these are my personal feelings.... i've had numerous conversations with people from all over the world during my time here that have challenged me on my views and agreed on a lot of them as well... michelle- i am sorry that you had to go through such an experience at a very vulnerable time- everyone was shocked and upset and you had to be outside of the very support system that you counted on... but i also appreciate your advice- i know there are things i can do- and this is the way things are- i just feel small and insignificant in the scheme of things and i feel very powerless... i know that a lot of people in and outside the u.s. feel similarly...

and rudey you constantly attack people on their views and opinions because i truly believe that it makes you feel better. You are mean and rude on almost every topic that i've seen you post on. you can say all you want but still feel sorry for you....

i'm so naive....get over yourself

[Rudey]

Originally posted by AlethiaSi
and rudey you constantly attack people on their views and opinions because i truly believe that it makes you feel better. You are mean and rude on almost every topic that i've seen you post on. you can say all you want but still feel sorry for you....

i'm so naive....get over yourself

Roll your eyes. It's what slow people do. That's not an insult - that's the truth, they roll their eyes and drool.

You can't even respond to a single point I said but throw out the ever classic "You're mean".

-Rudey

[XOMichelle]

I quote Paul Krugman because I think he has a eloquent way of saying how I feel. Not only that, he has a wealth of information at his fingertips that I do not have on a day to day baisis (our general media sources do not always give whole stories of un biased facts, and I do not always have the time to follow up on everything that is said).

Not only that, but I feel that with the committee meeting that has been taking place in the past week, this is a time where criticism is justified. Richard Clarke publicly apologized to the country for not having the right information sharing systems in place to perhaps prevent 9/11. Now, there is a lot of hubbub on why he said that, or if they could have "connected the dots" if the perfect system was in place, but the point is, many top public officials think that something went wrong. This isn't something to be blind to! Not only that, the crucial information the Iraq had weapons of mass destruction was what made a lot of Americans originally against the war in Iraq, for it. Now we know that's not true, either. I don’t know about you, but I refuse to have my government lie to me, and then be reticent about investigation. That is what is going on right now, and criticism is certainly justified for such acts.

ETA-
A- Keep your chin up! My friend just got back from two months in Italy, and she wanted to come home after two weeks because of all the s*** she got for being American. The next time any Brits give you truble, just point out that Tony Blair is Bush's b****, and hasn't left the guy's side in three years. That'll shut them up pretty quick. You can also point out that there are varying opinions in any country- ask them if they support their prime minister.

[Rudey]

You have a lot of resources available to you. Krugman writes op-eds for the times. He might have the ability to meet a couple of important people here and there which you don't, but people need to stop thinking they are limited.

Our general media might not always give whole stories, but Krugman does not either since he's in the op-ed section. Brooks writes more eloquently, Safire is much more conservative, and Dowd honestly writes as if she takes acid every single time she writes and makes me question why she is a writer.

As for the commission they found a lot of problems with both sides. Clinton could have eliminated Osama, but didn't. Clark is being praised as the next Messiah, but do you honestly believe his book deal has nothing to do with this at all? The WMD might not be found but when the country shows these weapons to UN inspectors and several years later they're not there, it means there is no explanation and not that they didn't exist. Additionally, this wasn't simply about WMD.

-Rudey

Originally posted by XOMichelle
I quote Paul Krugman because I think he has a eloquent way of saying how I feel. Not only that, he has a wealth of information at his fingertips that I do not have on a day to day baisis (our general media sources do not always give whole stories of un biased facts, and I do not always have the time to follow up on everything that is said).

Not only that, but I feel that with the committee meeting that has been taking place in the past week, this is a time where criticism is justified. Richard Clarke publicly apologized to the country for not having the right information sharing systems in place to perhaps prevent 9/11. Now, there is a lot of hubbub on why he said that, or if they could have "connected the dots" if the perfect system was in place, but the point is, many top public officials think that something went wrong. This isn't something to be blind to! Not only that, the crucial information the Iraq had weapons of mass destruction was what made a lot of Americans originally against the war in Iraq, for it. Now we know that's not true, either. I don’t know about you, but I refuse to have my government lie to me, and then be reticent about investigation. That is what is going on right now, and criticism is certainly justified for such acts.

[XOMichelle]

yep, he does op eds, and I trust him.

I think the comments you have made are without content! The only worthwhile one was your first post, which had a few opinions that weren't very well supported. Many people would agree that the Kyoto protocol was a huge step in laying out procedures that will help the environment. The United States would not come on board because it values its economy over cleaning up the environment, and thought it would cause too much stress on companies. If you want to put content into a piece you must use examples, instead of simply telling others they are stupid because their posts are pseudo intellectual, and they are young. Please don't become a victim of your own criticism.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by XOMichelle
yep, he does op eds, and I trust him.

I think the comments you have made are without content! The only worthwhile one was your first post, which had a few opinions that weren't very well supported. Many people would agree that the Kyoto protocol was a huge step in laying out procedures that will help the environment. The United States would not come on board because it values its economy over cleaning up the environment, and thought it would cause too much stress on companies. If you want to put content into a piece you must use examples, instead of simply telling others they are stupid because their posts are pseudo intellectual, and they are young. Please don't become a victim of your own criticism.

Are you kidding me?!? Who is most people?? Find me one economist that says that.

The US came on board because it realizes the economy is what drives helping the environment. The US realizes that 9 of the top 20 global polluters were not on board. The US realizes that its economy is very different from countries which have lapsed economies like Western Europe.

And please tell me, what US administration wanted to sign the protocal??

I could probably even sit here diagramming and doing the math for you but I don't do your work since it seems you're so busy...maybe you don't have time and maybe I'm not as trustable as Krugman so it won't matter.

-Rudey

[aggieAXO]

Originally posted by RACooper
Wow Rudey... you remind me of a robot the way you respond to things.... here's a rough aproximation of his programming

DANGER.... DANGER....
Differing opinion.... engage Fascist/"Patriot" response.....
DANGER.... DANGER....

American? NO
>
* abort Anti-Patriot Response *
>
European? NO
>
* abort Coward Response *
>
Arab? NO
>
* abort Military Response *
>
Canadian? YES
>
* warning no programmed response *
.... engaging Pointless Comment Response
>
End Program

ha ha ha too funny you are cracking me up!

[Tom Earp]

OKAY RUDEY, so Canandians are mindless idiots

But your continual Hagraunging on people for your personal gain is well

I do not beleive anyone made you a demigog of GC!

It seems that your self mindlessness is very unimportant to the total big picture of what is actually happening out side of your little world of Egomaniaism!

Geeze while you self suport yourself to be a Better, well, there are a lot of people on GC who think you are a less!

If you present yourself in everyday life such as this, I Predict you will be slain in a Gay Bar in New Jerk City!

Ah Alas Poor Embarisment, I give you Rudey, Your self imposed leader!


Paleeze, give us a rest! You do nothing but emberis yourself in spite of your Bravado!
Live and learn Bucko! Hopefully you may live long enough to learn! DA!

Have you ever thought why there are people who you talk down to who are Moderators and you are not!

[Rudey]

As I've said previously and repeatedly, please stop trying to start fights with me. I'm just simply not interested.

-Rudey

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Rubbish

[Tom Earp]

Ah, I am impressed! Finally some insightfulness!

So explain your inadiquraties

Spelling is bad on my part, pick me to death like you do others!

Then I asked, Do you pick on others

There Was A Race Between The Hare and The Tortise, but for being an ego day tripper, The Tortise won!

Rudey, Man You Could Be a Fantastic contribuitor to GC instead of Being The Butt of Jokes! Dont You get it yet DUDE!

[decadence]

Originally posted by XOMichelle: A- Keep your chin up! My friend just got back from two months in Italy, and she wanted to come home after two weeks because of all the s*** she got for being American. The next time any Brits give you truble, just point out that Tony Blair is Bush's b****, and hasn't left the guy's side in three years. That'll shut them up pretty quick. You can also point out that there are varying opinions in any country- ask them if they support their prime minister.

A few words on your xenophobic outlook... The idea that British society is some American hating populace is complete gibberish. The idea that the random Brit always has some beef with the USA and shall decide to loudly hold the first random N. American they see personally responsible is equally baseless. Yes, one may meet a tree hugging hippy communist beatnik who has jumped onto a let's bash the USA bandwagon but that could happen anywhere and is NOT some sort of endemic British attitude. I have a much better handle on what the view is of people on each side of the pond than you believe you have from 'something you read somewhere'. As for your childish comments on the British Prime Minister (again a rehashed journalist comment you hijack to attempt to bolster your wholly ill-informed attitude), it has LONG been the case that in developed countries (and those held to be 'superpowers, in the G8 etc) the leaders work together; for reasons of economics, political relations etc. John Major often flew over to meet and speak with Bill Clinton, Margaret Thatcher worked closely with Ronald Reagan. It is not as seem you seem to suggest a dark conspiracy and a domination/submission situation between President George W. Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair it is just a case of inter-country relations.

[AlethiaSi]

woah decadence i think that might be a little harsh- i know that it is hard to hear these things- she is only trying to make me feel better... these happen to be her experiences from being in europe- i haven't really been overtly attacked for being american- i have actually been quite welcome (till the politics come in- but even then- its usually a lively discussion)

my observations that started this whole thread stemmed from my own personal feelings of the state of the world/ u.s. .. i never stated whether they were true- this is due to my own ignorance on some issues- i'll admit that... ktsnake, rudey, michelle and richard and others have helped to open myself up to new interpretations and new information and i thank all of you for it- its helpful- i always want to learn... i just don't like to be looked down upon for what i happen to think or feel... if you have something to say... please TEACH me instead of hurting me... i think i speak for most people when i say that as well....


p.s. i wasn't intending to start an argument- my last comments were mean b/c i was hurt.... (the- you don't know me conversation etc )

[James]

Just finished reading Revelations?

Originally posted by AlethiaSi
the more and more that i see the news broadcasts and read papers about america.... i am embarrassed about the state of the nation- and of our world.... how is that these money grubbing mongrels have ended up running our government? I know that money rules the world and business is god in our capitalist system.... however, this is a sorry excuse. I am shocked and appalled practically each and everyday about some decision or a statement that is made by the bush administration. where is our system of checks and balances... how is a womens right to choose being overturned by fanatics in power... how are the taxes being decreased.. when it will only benefit 1% of our population.. our land and water are contaminated more and more- the hole in the ozone is spreading wider and wider.. melting the glaciers of the south pole and raising our world temperatures.... species are going extinct... people are wrought with disease and perishing at an alarming rate because their governments are too busy fighting nonsensical wars and they can't care for its own poeple.... i'm so frustrated and upset about everything that i'm seeing... ignorance truly is bliss.... and now that i know this stuff there doesn't seem to be a damn thing i can do about it and thats the worst part....