Misconceptions about your Organization

[Sweet Deliverance]

the NPHC GPA is based on national figures and not local.

What resource did these figures come from? I've never heard of such. We all know that arbitrary rating of any kind of NPCH organizations is not permitted by the NPHC...

I dare not disrespect or abase my organization by repeating the stereotypes that some people believe to be the "truth", but I will say that whether positive or negative, if people want to see certain things a particular way, they will try to find it.

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[AKAtude]

[quote]Originally posted by Sweet Deliverance:

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I dare not disrespect or abase my organization by repeating the stereotypes that some people believe to be the "truth",

I may be out of the loop, but I've never heard any stereotypes associated with your sorority.

[DoggyStyle82]

Originally posted by Sweet Deliverance:

What resource did these figures come from? I've never heard of such. We all know that arbitrary rating of any kind of NPCH organizations is not permitted by the NPHC...

I dare not disrespect or abase my organization by repeating the stereotypes that some people believe to be the "truth", but I will say that whether positive or negative, if people want to see certain things a particular way, they will try to find it.

They came from from and unbiased source. I was at a Meet the Greeks informational and the Director of Greek Life made the statemant. After the meeting, I asked her to site her sources and she showed me the info in black and white. Most white colleges have to report the GPAs of all of their Greek orgs and this info is easily gathered and compiled.

[dirtymike1906]

Misconceptions vary by region. No offense to Omega, but the Ques on my campus (Midwest) WERE dumb and never graduated. I've met others from the South and East who were actually clean-cut and degreed. And I would bet money that DoggyStyle82 is from somewhere other than the Midwest. More Midwest: AKAs were all supposedly light with long hair; Zetas were fat women with kids; Deltas were rough and thuggish (like their bros were thought to be); Sigmas were nerds (We're always shocked when we see a Sigma football player from a Southern school on TV; Kappas light and arrogant.

[KnowledgeEternal]

The Head of the Poli. Sci department at morehouse is an Omega and he is one of the most intelligent men I have EVER met.

[tickledpink]

I've never heard that misconception about Omega Men (dumb) either. Now the rough part, yes, I've heard that. But, most of the Omegas from our campus graduated and left to make the big bucks. I guess that's why they call it a misconception.

[AKA2D '91]

Originally posted by DoggyStyle82:
AKA2D91 and AKATUDE:

To answer your question, for the Academic year of 1999, Omega Psi Phi had the highest GPA nationally of all of the NPHC fraternities. Not just one individual campus. This may be because we have no exceptions to the 2.5 GPA minimum as others have/had and on most HBCU campuses the minimum GPA is even higher than the national standard.

Are you saying that OTHER organizations have requirements less than 2.5?



[This message has been edited by AKA2D '91 (edited May 04, 2001).]

[The Original Ape]

Originally posted by AKA2D '91:
Are you saying that OTHER organizations have requirements less than 2.5?

[This message has been edited by AKA2D '91 (edited May 04, 2001).]

Good question,2d.

At my school(which is predominantly white), we(Alpha Phi Alpha) are required to have a minimum 2.5 gpa too.

[DoggyStyle82]

Originally posted by AKA2D '91:
Are you saying that OTHER organizations have requirements less than 2.5?

Yes, there are NPHC fraternities who do not require a 2.5. I know that at the time that I pledged (before Intake), APA required a 2.3, KAY a 2.0, and PBS had none, and Omega a 2.5. In 2001, I can't speak for everyone but ours is still a 2.5 nationally and 2.7 or 2.8 on most HBCU campuses. I know the Sigmas still don't have a "hard " minimum, I don't know about anyone else.

DIRTYMIKE1906: in the brotherly spirit, I won't comment on any Alpha stereotypes and I'll accept your post in a good-natured spirit.

KNOWLEDGE/ETERNAL: Omega also has the most college presidents of ny NPHC organization.

[AKA_Monet]

Okay, misconceptions about others: (teehee--- )

I heard Omegas were "BIG" and rough... And if "they" say Omegas are "dumb", well, they are very good at finding a "spot" quite easily... And it takes brains, skills and talent to do that... Hmmmm....

[BLUEHEAVEN]

Originally posted by dirtymike1906:
Zetas were fat women with kids;

I for one never could understand where the stereotype that Zeta's are "overweight" came from. Now I have seen individuals in all organization who follow that body type....but was it lack of anything better to say that makes that part of Zeta. Yes...there are some individuals like that...but my sorors come in all shapes and sizes...and ALL exemplify FINERWOMANHOOD (be it with or without children).

I just feel that these stereotypes are silly and all NPHC organizations would work TOGETHER to dispel them rather than continually bring those out to GDI's. I really feel that SOME of the NPHC greeks think that these statements are true....UNITY people....thats what we should be concentrating on....

[The Original Ape]

Originally posted by DoggyStyle82:
Yes, there are NPHC fraternities who do not require a 2.5. I know that at the time that I pledged (before Intake), APA required a 2.3, KAY a 2.0, and PBS had none, and Omega a 2.5. In 2001, I can't speak for everyone but ours is still a 2.5 nationally and 2.7 or 2.8 on most HBCU campuses. I know the Sigmas still don't have a "hard " minimum, I don't know about anyone else.

DIRTYMIKE1906: in the brotherly spirit, I won't comment on any Alpha stereotypes and I'll accept your post in a good-natured spirit.

KNOWLEDGE/ETERNAL: Omega also has the most college presidents of ny NPHC organization.

Doggystyle,

Where did you get the idea that Alpha required a 2.3 when you crossed? I crossed in October 1980; and that's not what it was when I pledged. I applaud your organization on its accomplishments, but c'mon now man; some of your statements are debatable.

As for misconceptions, some of them are more than real. I'm aware of how we(Alphas)are perceived in the south. But we(MEMBERS OF GREEK-LETTERED ORGANIZATIONS)all should know that these realities exist regionally; not nationally. One chapter may do things according to the guidelines of their Nationals, another may operate autonomously; and THAT chapter may be the one bad apple that spoils the rep of the bunch.

I think every organization has some bad apples(chapters/individuals) somewhere in the country.

[DoggyStyle82]

ORIGINAL APE: I am not trying to put out any misconceptions. If anything that I said is wrong, you are here to correct me. I know for ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that the Sphinxmen who pledged the same time as me, did not all have a 2.5. Now maybe that was a chapter thing or exceptions to the 2.5 were possible. But I also know for certain that my facts are correct because I knew each pledgee of each pledge class when I pledged (all the Black students knew each other) .I knew the guys who went on with less than 2.5 GPAs because that was a big sticking point, especially at a PWCU.

[dirtymike1906]

No offense DoggyStyle82--my post was good-natured and not meant to offend.

[DoggyStyle82]

Originally posted by dirtymike1906:
No offense DoggyStyle82--my post was good-natured and not meant to offend.

None taken DirtyMike. For OLDHEADAPE, I was not implying that your GPA requirements were lax or less than ours, I was trying to reason why the figures may show Omega with a higher GPA overall (in according to one study) and pointing out the facts on my campus at the time. We had our share of Bruhs on academic probation (too much partying and pledging, not lack of intelligence).