U of T has a co-ed professional local?

[shorty5feet2]

kappa doesnt do spring rush, but the frats do...i plan on attending frat rush parties with my guy friends...sorry for the confusion

[shorty5feet2]

yo im sorry i dont know why my posts are all whack...these were supposed to be on another board...im so confused.

[James]

Its the drugs . .. its the drugs

Originally posted by shorty5feet2
yo im sorry i dont know why my posts are all whack...these were supposed to be on another board...im so confused.

[AGDee]

I was always under the impression that U of T didn't recognize the sororities because their policy states that to be recognized, you cannot discriminate by gender. In reading the policy, it says you can't discriminate by gender, race, national origin, religion, etc, etc. Yet, among the orgs that are recognized are orgs for people from Sri Lanka, China, Thailand, Iran. There are groups that say they are Jewish, Advocates for Islam, etc. I believe they are using their policy when they choose to, to keep sororities and fraternities from being recognized.

On a humorous note, I want to join the Munchies at Midnight group!

Dee

[MysticCat]

In reading the policy, it says you can't discriminate by gender, race, national origin, religion, etc, etc. Yet, among the orgs that are recognized are orgs for people from Sri Lanka, China, Thailand, Iran. There are groups that say they are Jewish, Advocates for Islam, etc.

I agree that these university policies can be ridiculous. But I wonder if it is really a matter of selective enforcement or whether the groups like you mention, say the Si Lankan group, would prohibit someone who is not of Sri Lankan background from joining. If they wouldn't, then there would be no discrimination on the basis of national origin, even if they didn't actually have any non-Sri Lankan members.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by AGDee
I was always under the impression that U of T didn't recognize the sororities because their policy states that to be recognized, you cannot discriminate by gender. In reading the policy, it says you can't discriminate by gender, race, national origin, religion, etc, etc. Yet, among the orgs that are recognized are orgs for people from Sri Lanka, China, Thailand, Iran. There are groups that say they are Jewish, Advocates for Islam, etc. I believe they are using their policy when they choose to, to keep sororities and fraternities from being recognized.

On a humorous note, I want to join the Munchies at Midnight group!

Dee

Does Shala still post at Greek Chat? Maybe she can help clear things up a bit.

ETA:As for our recognition, NPCs are a "recognized campus group", but not recognized by the Student Administrative Council

http://www.sa.utoronto.ca/groups.php?waid=2&glid=29

Srange thing is that they're only listed when one clicks on the "entire list" button and not when one clicks on the "S" button.

[AGDee]

But, according to the "Info".. this what the Sororities of U of T is:

"Sororities at U of T" promotes the existence of Women's Fraternities in the University of Toronto area. Our aim is to encourage an interest in Women's Fraternities and to show all that they can offer.



Recognition Approval: September 09, 2003
Recognition Expiry: September 30, 2004


That is not the same as the individual sororities or Panhellenic Council. It sounds like a creative way around not being able to advertise for Recruitment, etc though! They can just advertise through this org.

Dee

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by Taualumna
I don't think it's the gender thing since they seem to recognize the sororities (see "Sororities at U of T" listing on the link posted). As for Guelph, the gender thing is the silliest excuse ever made because Guelph, like other universities, has athletics, and varsity athletics is single gendered only!

Oh I know. It's a load os BS, but that's the excuse they have given us. I have no idea what the real motives behind it is.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by AGDee
But, according to the "Info".. this what the Sororities of U of T is:

"Sororities at U of T" promotes the existence of Women's Fraternities in the University of Toronto area. Our aim is to encourage an interest in Women's Fraternities and to show all that they can offer.



Recognition Approval: September 09, 2003
Recognition Expiry: September 30, 2004


That is not the same as the individual sororities or Panhellenic Council. It sounds like a creative way around not being able to advertise for Recruitment, etc though! They can just advertise through this org.

Dee

Yeah, but at least it's something. The guys don't have anything at all.

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by AGDee
I was always under the impression that U of T didn't recognize the sororities because their policy states that to be recognized, you cannot discriminate by gender. In reading the policy, it says you can't discriminate by gender, race, national origin, religion, etc, etc. Yet, among the orgs that are recognized are orgs for people from Sri Lanka, China, Thailand, Iran. There are groups that say they are Jewish, Advocates for Islam, etc. I believe they are using their policy when they choose to, to keep sororities and fraternities from being recognized.

On a humorous note, I want to join the Munchies at Midnight group!

Dee

We have the same kinds of organizations at Guelph. However, they cannot discriminate against you. You might not be jewish, but you have every right to join the jewish organization if you are interested.
Although, rumor has it that certain orgs do discriminate. After reading a letter to the editor in my school newspaper, one girl was outraged because the group that she wished to join wouldn't let her because of her ethnic background.

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by AGDee
But, according to the "Info".. this what the Sororities of U of T is:

"Sororities at U of T" promotes the existence of Women's Fraternities in the University of Toronto area. Our aim is to encourage an interest in Women's Fraternities and to show all that they can offer.



Recognition Approval: September 09, 2003
Recognition Expiry: September 30, 2004


That is not the same as the individual sororities or Panhellenic Council. It sounds like a creative way around not being able to advertise for Recruitment, etc though! They can just advertise through this org.

Dee

Wilfred Laurier University has a similar org. All sororities and fraternities are listed under the Greek Council or something to that effect (can't remeber the name) and that's how they promote themselves, through a general club. So meetings are booked udner one name, and the hold info sessions under one name, etc.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
We have the same kinds of organizations at Guelph. However, they cannot discriminate against you. You might not be jewish, but you have every right to join the jewish organization if you are interested.
Although, rumor has it that certain orgs do discriminate. After reading a letter to the editor in my school newspaper, one girl was outraged because the group that she wished to join wouldn't let her because of her ethnic background.

Question: Is there a LINK (Guides for university aged women) unit at Guelph? Queen's has the same policy of not allowing organizations that discriminate, but yet we had a LINK and were allowed to be in the yearbook. Strange.

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Question: Is there a LINK (Guides for university aged women) unit at Guelph? Queen's has the same policy of not allowing organizations that discriminate, but yet we had a LINK and were allowed to be in the yearbook. Strange.

I'm not sure what that is. I don't think we have one then.
I thought Queen's didn't have an GLO's?

[RACooper]

Originally posted by Taualumna
GC meetings?

Governing Council..... basically the overall political body responsible for the running of the University. There are a couple of student reps, but they are mostly the career student/activist types. Because I'm a past college president I can attend the meetings as an observer (not even ex-officio). Every now and then I do if I know they will be discussing any important issues..... such as the issue of the SAC executive accepting an all expenses paid trip to Isreal (from Hillel), to gain an "understanding" of the current Israel/Palestine issues.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
I'm not sure what that is. I don't think we have one then.
I thought Queen's didn't have an GLO's?

Queen's doesn't have GLOs, but does have a Link unit (affiliated with Girl Guides). It's basically for young women, usually 18-25 or so, who want to be involved in Guiding, but not be working with a unit as a leader. Basically for girls who don't have time to be a Guider.