Is having children a right?

[The1calledTKE]

Plus if a man that can't afford kids should be fixed so should a woman that can't afford kids only fair.

[ADPiAkron]

All I have to say is...stuff like this only happens in Akron, Ohio!
A-k-ronADPi represent! haha

[sugar and spice]

On one hand, I do agree that there are too many idiots out there having children (who wouldn't?).

But I think that the idea of the government being allowed to decide who's allowed to have kids is frightening, given its previous history of selective sterilization.

We're kind of screwed either way.

[bethany1982]

Originally posted by The1calledTKE
Where did that come from. I would think democrats would fight for the right to procreate. Not make laws and Get a license to have sex. Its the republicans that have and want laws to ban oral sex and sex toys in some states.

Read the posts.

[bethany1982]

Originally posted by The1calledTKE
Plus if a man that can't afford kids should be fixed so should a woman that can't afford kids only fair.

The government should not have the power to make that decision, no matter what. Male or Female. NEVER! EVER! NEVER, NEVER, NEVER!

Agreed.... I'm about as conservative Republican as you can get... and mine was the original post.

*shrug*

Edited to clarify: the original post about parental liscensing, not the original post in the thread.

[Cluey]

Ugh. Not another philosophical political debate

I see people all the time who are crappy parents and, for most of them, it's not because they cannot provide for their kids. There is so much more to raising a kid than just money. How do you quantify all of those things?

I guess I just know too many kids who live in multi-million dollar homes with absentee parents who are emotionally unavailable.

[The1calledTKE]

Originally posted by bethany1982
The government should not have the power to make that decision, no matter what. Male or Female. NEVER! EVER! NEVER, NEVER, NEVER!

Yah I don't think gov't should regulate anything when it comes to repoduction rights. I just was saying if they were going to stop guys they should stop gals too.

[AOIIBrandi]

I think there should be some recourse to make this guy step-up and putting him in jail will only keep him from earning a living and fathering his children.

My other point would be that any two idiots can make a baby without going to parenting classes or having bloodwork to make sure their healthy and a laundry list of other things, but the minute that a person/couple wants to take in a baby that is being given up they have to subject themselves to all of this and more. All because either they care enough to take in more children or are unable to have them on their own - which they're allowed to do without all the red tape. Seems backwards to me

[honeychile]

Originally posted by Ginger
I am ALL FOR this.

You know that radical and controversial thread? Well here's my radical and controversial idea.... I think people should be required to get a permit/liscense to have children. If it's an unplanned pregnancy, you still have to apply, and if you don't pass, your child goes up for adoption.

There are too many shithead parents in the world, and too many loving couples in who can't have children and can't afford the adoption process.

As someone who's ability to have children is in question, this makes me VERY ANGRY.

I completely agree, for men AND women!

Here's a little something to throw into the mix: I actually know a 4-generation welfare family who was able to get public assistance to pay for artificial insemination for a couple who were both unemployed due to "asthma"!!

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

Originally posted by bethany1982
The government should not have the power to make that decision, no matter what. Male or Female. NEVER! EVER! NEVER, NEVER, NEVER!

You think the government shouldn't tell people they can't have kids, BUT you think it's ok for the government to tell people they must continue a pregnancy. It's amazing how Republicans scream about wanting less government interference, but think it's ok for the government to interfere in a woman's body.

NEWS FLASH: It's all still the government trying to tell us what to do..........

It's like the saying goes. If you can't trust me with a choice, how can you trust me with a child?

Having kids is a privilege and should be treated as such. You shouldn't have them and then expect those of who choose not to have them to support yours. Most people don't buy a new car if they can't afford one. The government shouldn't regulate it, but people should think through all the issues before they decide to have kids.

And for the record........I'm a Democrat.

[Tom Earp]

Well, I hope the Friggen ACLU doesnt get on this theard the Commies!

Dont snip them, Kill them!

I made the decission not to have Kids, I hate Rashes around the Rear of My Buttockess area!

What is Liberal or Conservative?

Either Have Kids or dont! Who is to decide? Oh Bad Dad did not pay support, lets put him in jail! How in the hell does He if He gets a contcenious to decicde to give money for his Child! What is The womens Responsability!? Just to have a Child and say, Oh Assqwhole You owe me money for screwing me and making me pregnant?

So now except for the ACLU, the man is always at fault!

Snip and clip, spade neuter or what ever, do Like The Chinese Do, If you have to many Female Children, you Die! You cant do it it you phutz!

I actually love kids as long they are not mine! I have to many In my Chapter after 38 Years and those on GC!

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by The1calledTKE
Where did that come from. I would think democrats would fight for the right to procreate. Not make laws and Get a license to have sex. Its the republicans that have and want laws to ban oral sex and sex toys in some states.

Who the crap do they think they are to take away our blow jobs and BOBs?

Back on topic... why doesn't the government just work harder to take away children from parents who are shitty?

OR... if someone is on welfare and they have like 5 kids, then make then get tied.

ps... haven't read the whole thread

[bethany1982]

Originally posted by SmartBlondeGPhB
You think the government shouldn't tell people they can't have kids, BUT you think it's ok for the government to tell people they must continue a pregnancy. It's amazing how Republicans scream about wanting less government interference, but think it's ok for the government to interfere in a woman's body.

NEWS FLASH: It's all still the government trying to tell us what to do..........

It's like the saying goes. If you can't trust me with a choice, how can you trust me with a child?

Having kids is a privilege and should be treated as such. You shouldn't have them and then expect those of who choose not to have them to support yours. Most people don't buy a new car if they can't afford one. The government shouldn't regulate it, but people should think through all the issues before they decide to have kids.

And for the record........I'm a Democrat.

Perfect liberal comeback. Attack me and not the issue. So first I’ll deal with me. You have never seen a post where I am against all abortion. Never. I find your statement that the government should not regulate having children, but that people should think through the issues before they decide to have them to be great advice for the advocates of abortion on demand for the sake of birth control or convenience. Before a person finds herself in the position of needing an abortion for the sake of birth control or convience, perhaps she could have better thought through the issue. My position on abortion is this; the government should only regulate the killing of a child, not the disposal of fetal tissue. However, abortion is not the issue here. Do you want the government to have the power to control human reproduction by regulating who can and cannot have children?

[Dionysus]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00


Back on topic... why doesn't the government just work harder to take away children from parents who are shitty?

OR... if someone is on welfare and they have like 5 kids, then make then get tied.

Yeah, those are way more realistic.