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12-18-2003, 02:11 AM
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1] Living in the South as a Catholic, you learn to get over religious slurs. I was once told I was going to Hell by a baptist b/c she said I am a pagan....whatever, I don't care b/c Catholicism is the best religion for me. [Don't flame me, I was just stating MY personal belief]
2] Racial slurs don't phase me...I mean I don't care if someone calls me a redneck, white trash, honky, cracker, ghost, pale face, etc. b/c I think hypocracy is a funny thing. The people whom I have heard call me these things happen to become very offended if someone generalizes them.
3] How come certain ethnicities,races, religious groups etc if they are a minority can make fun of the majority but as soon as someone in the majority makes fun of something about a minority it is wrong (e.g. a black making fun of the way a white talks;an asian making fun of a black person;a gay makign fun of a straight couple)?
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12-18-2003, 04:46 AM
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Re: Religious v. racial slurs
Yes. They are nasty and unacceptable and I do NOT tolerate them around me! NO type of slurs regarding race, religion or sexuality is acceptable in my eyes.
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Originally posted by kddani
Question for discussion:
Do slurs/nasty/ignorant comments (for lack of better other way to explain what I mean) about your religion offend you?
Do you view them perhaps the same way as if someone was making derogatory remarks about your race/ethnicity?
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12-18-2003, 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by kafromTN
1] Living in the South as a Catholic, you learn to get over religious slurs. I was once told I was going to Hell by a baptist b/c she said I am a pagan....whatever, I don't care b/c Catholicism is the best religion for me. [Don't flame me, I was just stating MY personal belief]
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Yah I been told alot when I lived in a redneck Ga town I needed to be "saved" alot didn't get the going to hell but much. It didn't bother me any because most my friends were not catholic and were baptist and they had no problem with me.
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12-18-2003, 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by OUlioness01
i just have a problem when ignorant people tell me i'm not christian because i'm catholic. i also don't like it when people apologize to me becuase i'm catholic. i'm not sorry i am, why should they be? it's a bigger deal to me because i've never been referred to by a racial/ethnic slur. most people in my city are german and/or irish too.
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Pretty much the same thing.
I usually smile and say "Well that's not a very Christian thing to say."
One girl on my track team in high school (a public school, mind you) was really into asking people if they'd been saved. I started telling her that my boyfriend was a lifeguard, so I didn't worry about that. I don't think she knew what to do.
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12-18-2003, 02:08 PM
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I have never understood the concept of racial slurs. If I want to insult someone I would direct my insult to them personally, not to some incidental like being French-American, or African-American, or Chinese-American. If I am angry enough at you to insult you I would at least do you the courtesy of insulting you, not a whole subset of the human race with whom I have no conflict! Which brings us to the religious slurs question. I believe that as a matter of principle one should try not to let anger take over your thoughts to the extent that you would intentionally insult another unless there was grave and sufficient provocation calling for a statement of "extreme disapproval". I am reminded of an exchange between Cardinal Newman and Oscar Wilde. The Cardinal opined that "A gentleman should never knowingly give offence". Wilde replied, "Oh no, your Eminence, a gentleman should never UNknowingly give offence". As to religious slurs, if one professes a religion it is a matter between that person and God. I am a man of faith so by definition I respect the faith of anyone else who also professes a belief system in a Supreme Being. I am happy to discuss my faith with anyone who wishes to do so but rather than try to shove it down anyone's throat I would prefer to try to live my faith (however often I fumble the attempt) and let that stand as my general statement. I happen to believe that my faith is founded by and upon Christ and handed down in unbroken succession from the Apostles to the present day and containes the whole truth of revelation as found in tradition and Holy Scripture. For me to profess anything else would be to turn apostate. On the other hand, if anyone, adhearing to a different belief system, firmly believes it is true and correct and does his best to live his faith I would be awfully surprised if God were not pleased by that persons good conscience efforts to know, love, and serve God in this world ...
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12-18-2003, 02:58 PM
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It's definately frustrating at times..you can't ignore every single generalisation or down-right blatant racial/ religious insult that come out of supposedly educated people's mouth (as subtle as it may be). To be honest with you, I get irritated when people of my own race and/or religion make the typical stereotypical comments towards other races. I consider myself a tolerant person because I was home-trained...but I wonder if other americans take the time to think about the stuff they say sometimes.
In any case, you learn to ignore the ignorant!
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12-18-2003, 09:42 PM
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Usually a retort...
Did anyone ever see the "South Park" episodes with "The Super Best Friends..."
That was funny...
Anyhow, when one states something that is completely ignorant to me and they are not my friend or I don't know them, I usually reply with a question that points out their ignorance...
This action is extremely difficult to learn and to do. Because remember, "to whom the gods wish to destroy, they must first make them angry..."
At UW in Seattle, a freshman girl living in the dorm who was also African American had a sign put on her door by the Klan. Stating that they were going to kill her and signed it KKK...
She did the appropriate action by reporting it to the police. The police are investigating it as a hate crime... It puts a tide of hurt, resentment and anger on the UW campus... And many folks believe that nothing with be resolved, nothing with be done... A tide of hopelessness... And when folks give up, then that is how things get outta hand--like chit gets burnt down...
Well, I wish the Klan put that chit on my door--'cuz I'da told 'em "bring it on..." And "don't miss..." And "Bring a lunch, 'cuz it's gonna be an all day affair..." I'da pulled out some "Matrix" Jet Li self defense and make sho I'd kick they asses... Puttin' that dayum mess on my door...
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12-18-2003, 09:52 PM
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I think that hatred has never been solved by more hatred and the only that comes out of hating someone is that they will hate you even more and then start to generalize. Its natural to generalize, learn by association that is how we evolved to the point of knowing how to talk. I just really don't like some people, they are holding the world down.
I agree with what DKEguy said. Espcially the Oscar Wilde part. If people were gentleman there wouldn't be any more wars. There would be duels all the time though.
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