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Old 12-10-2003, 04:37 PM
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Yes but I imagine Harlem is largely Democratic. I don't know if he would gain the same reception in Manhatten besides the resepct you give past presidents. I am not arguing Clinton doesn't have influence. He does. But some people do blame him for Gore losing.
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Old 12-10-2003, 04:41 PM
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Are you kidding? Clinton commands attention and gets it. He goes to Harlem and is worshipped.

Clark's only thing in common with Clinton is an award from a long time ago.

-Rudey
And that Clinton fired him from his position as NATO Commander.
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Old 12-10-2003, 04:45 PM
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And that Clinton fired him from his position as NATO Commander.
Yet Bill and Hillary influenced him to run. I think they will endorse who they think could benifit the party most. Doesn't really matter they have past diferences.
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Old 12-10-2003, 04:54 PM
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I understand the Democratic party would never go with Lieberman because he's a Jew and well, this country wouldn't elect a Jew for a while.
You may be right about that, but nobody thought a Catholic could be elected President when JFK was. It was a huge issue.

Of course the Catholics didn't have an Israel type issue to deal with.

Lieberman was very close to being "a heartbeat away" from the Presidency as Gore's runningmate.

A Liberman candidacy would be interesting to watch.
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Old 12-10-2003, 05:10 PM
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You may be right about that, but nobody thought a Catholic could be elected President when JFK was. It was a huge issue.

Of course the Catholics didn't have an Israel type issue to deal with.

Lieberman was very close to being "a heartbeat away" from the Presidency as Gore's runningmate.

A Liberman candidacy would be interesting to watch.
I still wouldn't put my money on anyone that isn't male and protestant. Even on a Catholic.

VP is a deadend position. Only recently has it been turned into something it's not. A VP isn't supposed to be in the media and worrying about his presidential campaign. More often than not, he's been thrown in as vp because it will limit his future.

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Old 12-10-2003, 08:06 PM
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I still wouldn't put my money on anyone that isn't male and protestant. Even on a Catholic.
Well, history would certainly support you on that. It would be nice to think we're past those barriers -- but that would also be Pollyannish (is that a word?), unfortunately.
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Old 12-10-2003, 08:09 PM
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Well, history would certainly support you on that. It would be nice to think we're past those barriers -- but that would also be Pollyannish (is that a word?), unfortunately.
Also, who better to represent a G-d fearing Christian (protestant) than another Christian (protestant)? Yeah I'd say it's people's fears and antiquated mentalities mostly, but also demographics.

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Old 12-11-2003, 01:09 PM
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Dean plays like a flaming liberal, but he's actually a centrist. He left Vermont with a balanced budget. I think he's just been made the liberal candidate, because of his vehement anti-war stance.
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