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Old 12-03-2003, 03:23 PM
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Re: Sexual Predators

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With the Dru Sjodin case still unsolved, the subject of changing laws concerning sexual predators came up. What should be done, if anything at all?
Start executing the career criminals.
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Old 12-03-2003, 03:27 PM
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Re: Re: Sexual Predators

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Start executing the career criminals.
And what happens when that career criminal was executed for a crime in which he was innocent?

The death penalty is way to flawed to be a credible part of a democracy's judicial system, at this point in time.
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Old 12-03-2003, 05:39 PM
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I think the best solution to our overcrowded prisons would be to make it absolutely suck to be in prison. Currently, many inmates enjoy amenities like cable TV, weightrooms, telephone, internet, etc. Take that stuff away. Use the money you save there to invest in vocational rehabilitation.

As for the topic of this thread.. I think that fella in Texas who volunteered to be castrated had a great idea.
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Old 12-03-2003, 05:40 PM
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I think the best solution to our overcrowded prisons would be to make it absolutely suck to be in prison. Currently, many inmates enjoy amenities like cable TV, weightrooms, telephone, internet, etc. Take that stuff away. Use the money you save there to invest in vocational rehabilitation.

As for the topic of this thread.. I think that fella in Texas who volunteered to be castrated had a great idea.
Castration doesn't work though.

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Old 12-03-2003, 05:52 PM
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Castration doesn't work though.

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Forget chemical castration...just chop 'em off!
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Old 12-03-2003, 05:56 PM
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Forget chemical castration...just chop 'em off!
1) You are no officialy an evil, evil woman.

2) That won't work either because sexual abuse has more to do with abuse than it has to do with sex.
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Old 12-03-2003, 05:56 PM
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Forget chemical castration...just chop 'em off!
They've done that. I don't know what chemical castration is. I think you're mixing up two separate procedures they've done and neither has worked. One is chemical conditioning in which you are exposed to a chemical every time you see a picture of something sexual. The other is castration which is the physical snip snip. I don't think there is a chemical castration because that sounds like you'd rub acid there or something and that sounds weird because well it is.

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Old 12-03-2003, 05:58 PM
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1) You are no officialy an evil, evil woman.

2) That won't work either because sexual abuse has more to do with abuse than it has to do with sex.

Hahahaha...

fine, then forget castration...just beat them senseless
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Old 12-03-2003, 06:48 PM
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I think the best solution to our overcrowded prisons would be to make it absolutely suck to be in prison. Currently, many inmates enjoy amenities like cable TV, weightrooms, telephone, internet, etc. Take that stuff away. Use the money you save there to invest in vocational rehabilitation.

As for the topic of this thread.. I think that fella in Texas who volunteered to be castrated had a great idea.

I've always said that prison inmates that are in there with life without parole, etc. etc. should be tested like things are tested on animals, and then not test on animals anymore.

Yes it may seem really harsh, but our tax dollars would be put to good use for society, and if criminals dont like it, then too bad. they shouldnt do the crimes to get put in there.
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Old 12-03-2003, 07:53 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Sexual Predators

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And what happens when that career criminal was executed for a crime in which he was innocent?

The death penalty is way to flawed to be a credible part of a democracy's judicial system, at this point in time.
They are all innocent right? How about the criminals that admitted guilt, the criminals caught on videotape or with the dead body in their freezer.

It is ironic how much crime we have in this country with all these "innocent" people.
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:00 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Sexual Predators

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They are all innocent right? How about the criminals that admitted guilt, the criminals caught on videotape or with the dead body in their freezer.

It is ironic how much crime we have in this country with all these "innocent" people.
I never implied that most people on death row are innocent. But the absilute fact is that there are some people who have been on death row, and when forensic science advanced, the evidence that was used to convict was found then used to free some of these prisoners.

There have also beem people executed who were later found to be innocent. Until forensic science advances, the death penalty's use should be severely restricted, if not banned.

Life without parole works for me.
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:59 PM
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I think the best solution to our overcrowded prisons would be to make it absolutely suck to be in prison. Currently, many inmates enjoy amenities like cable TV, weightrooms, telephone, internet, etc. Take that stuff away. Use the money you save there to invest in vocational rehabilitation.

As for the topic of this thread.. I think that fella in Texas who volunteered to be castrated had a great idea.
All you gotta do is talk to Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona (which covers Phoenix). Tough, no-nonsense guy who is a firm believer in that prison time is no country club - you serve the time hard.

More info: http://www.mcso.org/ .
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Old 12-03-2003, 11:20 PM
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I think that the majority of sexual predators should not be allowed release. Maybe after years in a max-security facility they can go to a "nicer" jail.

However, like ktsnake brought up, statutory rape is a whole different ballgame. I know a fellow who is branded a "Sexaul Predator" for life because he was convicted of statutory rape. He served no time in jail and just had to pay a fine. The girl didn't want to press charges and they're now ENGAGED but whenever they move to a new town he has to tell all the neighbors he's a sexual predator. I just don't agree with that.
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Old 12-04-2003, 12:17 AM
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Life without parole, except in the case of statutory rape.

Actual castration does not necessarily work. If someone really wants to sexually assault someone, where are myriad ways to go about it other than a penis. It also ignores the fact that there are plenty of female offenders.

Chemical castration has more potential. Basically, it's shots of Depo that make the sexual urges that accompany testosterone production nonexistent. Those shots have to be taken on a regular basis, and if someone skips it...it's as if they didn't take it at all. There was a Law and Order: SVU about this same thing, except that the offender was taking pills instead, and stopped taking them.
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Old 12-04-2003, 01:48 AM
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All you gotta do is talk to Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona (which covers Phoenix). Tough, no-nonsense guy who is a firm believer in that prison time is no country club - you serve the time hard.

More info: http://www.mcso.org/ .
I heard him on some radio talk show the other day. Think it was Sean Hannity.
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