How open are your parties?

[LXAAlum]

It looks like open policies vary widely.

One idea that I saw at several campuses for limiting risk management issues (this will depend on the size of the party of course as to whether your chapter could do this):

We would take the keys from anyone that drove to the party, and issue basically a coat check ticket for their keys. If they overindulged (I know, THAT doesn't happen ), we wouldn't give the keys back. We'd either offer to drive their car home for them, or give them a ride, and they could get the car keys back the next day. Driving their car made me nervous due to liability issues, but we figured those issues were nowhere near what the liability of letting them drive.

We also used wristbands (legal age, underage, and designated drivers) to determine who could drink what, and, if any $ was associated, DD's were free anyways...

Rudey, sorry to hijack your thread, but when I first saw the title of this thread I thought it read:

"HOW OPEN ARE YOUR PANTIES?"

I just had to share.

[33girl]

Originally posted by AlphaXiGirl
So, let me get this straight. I don't have to pay dues, attend meetings, take vows, or do anything else remotely giving rights of greek membership, yet I get to partake in the fun that abounds at fraternity parties???? and the University has mandated this????

Who cares if they have a social life. If they don't like not having a social life then they should "Go Greek"....also, isn't there a campus wide organization that hosts events for the entire campus? Why do the fraternities have to provide a social life for the entire campus? I can't believe the national organizations aren't up in arms over that.

I guess I am shocked that a University would add so much liability for the sake of 15% of the student population - that, I might add, had the opportunity to join one of these organizations or, perhaps, start their own.

As far as being an a-hole at the party - it looks like even if you were an a-hole, you would still have open access to the fraternity parties. I'm sure that the worst offenders could have university sanctions including being banned from fraternity parties but just your average, run-of-the-mill a-hole could attend forever.

I was saying that if you are an a-hole in the sense of starting fights, getting violently drunk etc the fraternities could most likely refuse to let you in and the school would be OK with it. I.E. certain people can be banned. If we banned all the run-of-the-mill a-holes there would be no one at the parties. LOL

At my school - this is back in the day - the only closed fraternity parties were mixers. Everything else was open. You occasionally had to get tickets from a brother, but I think that was more so they could gauge how much beer to buy. And yes, you paid to get in, the same as you paid to get in a party at the football house or a random GDI party.

I think one reason anti-Greekness has increased is because of closed parties. People don't understand it's for risk management reasons and accuse Greeks of being snobby or elitist.

If they're at the parties and didn't go Greek, it's probably because they were not given a bid, not because they didn't want to.

[Tom Earp]

Rudey,

I was truely trying to say, Hey what a great post, until I got to the rest.

YES, there are diffrent precepts at different schools. But, is there a different idea among Greek Orgs. I dont think so, not if you are a member of a National GLO!

It is hard to imagine with the Risk Management hanging over ALL GREEKS heads, that there would be just open partys!

Risk Management=Higher Insurance costs.

Of course, you never mentioned your affiliation of any Greek Org.

What does that tell me? Oh, and every body else on GC!?

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Rudey,

<snip>

Of course, you never mentioned your affiliation of any Greek Org.

What does that tell me? Oh, and every body else on GC!?

Rudey's an AEPi from UChicago.

[Rudey]

I tried to put you on ignore, but I wasn't allowed to since you were a moderator. Since I am forced to see your posts, I will try and scroll through them quickly. I would appreciate it if you didn't respond to me, use my username, or discuss my fraternity or my affiliation at any point.

-Rudey
--Have a nice day.

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Rudey,

I was truely trying to say, Hey what a great post, until I got to the rest.

YES, there are diffrent precepts at different schools. But, is there a different idea among Greek Orgs. I dont think so, not if you are a member of a National GLO!

It is hard to imagine with the Risk Management hanging over ALL GREEKS heads, that there would be just open partys!

Risk Management=Higher Insurance costs.

Of course, you never mentioned your affiliation of any Greek Org.

What does that tell me? Oh, and every body else on GC!?

[AlphaXiGirl]

Originally posted by 33girl
If we banned all the run-of-the-mill a-holes there would be no one at the parties. LOL

So true. Then again, what a great risk reduction plan.

[absolutuscchick]

Ok, at both USC and ASU, probably all but one frat party I've ever been to (and trust me on this, I've been to ALOT of frat parties!!!) have had a guest list for the guys while any girl can pretty much get in. One year, for a Sigma Chi party though, there were so many people that you had to either be friends with the doorperson or on the guest list....luckily my friends were friends with Sigma Chi guys so I got in without a problem!
Oh...and at USC mixers/exchanges are generally closed off to those not in the sorority or fraternity participating (although occasionally a brother or sister of a member will be in attendance). At one of our exchanges this year at ASU though there were girls that weren't even in KD there though!!

As for the issue of high school girls, I'm sure they could get in just fine!! Neighborhood people would definitely NOT be let into any USC frat party (given that it is in the ghetto, the non-students were ummm kind of ghetto!)

Sidenote...I can't believe all of the schools that have closed parties....that would totally suck...frat parties are a blast!!

[sigtau305]

Here at Cleveland State, Both Us and the TEKES have parties that are open to CSU Students with a valid College I.D. and/Or Valid Driver's/State I.D. only. My Chapter do have a guest list that is for any members who invite their Non-College friends.

[DG515]

/hijack
I feel kind of sad going to a small school, some of these parties sound fun! :-)
/end hiijack

All of our events are, naturally, by invitation only, but of course, we only have 2 real social events. Fall Fest and Formal....our fall fest is open to all greek students, but your chapter has to be invited, so it's......invitation, but not really.......formal, you have to be invited by a sister, but a sister can invite as many people as she wants *within reason* (the ticket price helps keep that one down)

The guys---not so strict......my favorite boys run invitation-in-hand, check id, sign in, for the big parties (mardis gras and halloween) but are a little loser on the smaller socials. As a general rule, all girls are under a blanket invite (our whole chapter is, as is the other sorority and their local sorority at their school. Guys they keep an eye out for and let them in depending on who knows them and what those people think......if the social gets to loud and too big, the unknown or lesser known guys go first, followed by unknown or lesser known girls.

Now, in complete opposite, the other fraternity prints up flyers, with directions and information, for their parties and plasters them around school and hands invites to anyone and everyone walking by. This particular house charges non-greeks at the door but don't require an invite in hand to get in. As a result, their parties are MORE known about and tend to get busted.

Both parties will serve to minors, but the first, only if they know you really well and you're not driving. If they even suspect youre going to be driving, they will not serve you, or hold you at the house overnight in the sleeping quarters. The second, as long as you can walk up to the bar, you've got a drink in your hand.

Given a choice between the two, I'd much rather go to one of A's socials. they are smaller, more intimate, more fun, and a heck of a lot more comfortable...no one's spilling booze or puking on ya, and if they are, at least you know them real well beforehand...

My two cents!
~*~Mandie~*~

[Tom Earp]

Rudey, My Bad, did not see you were an AEII.

But the point is, we have open partys and have been to some of them when som Dog Butts feel that they have the right to just walk in the door.

I noticed them and ask if they were Members, yeow Right, HAHA!

No were not but there is a party going on. We came to party! Well it did not take long for enough Brothers to get around them to make them feel not welcome. They left! Whew!

[Little E]

Our houses are owned by the College and thus we are required to have two all campus social events each year. All parties here are open campus, must have a college ID or be an alumn to get in. Phi Psi's parties are dry, but TKE and Sig Chi both are wet. They do have pre-parties, which are invite, but no one stands at the door and really checks. I'm sure risk management people would have a fit if they came here.

[breathesgelatin]

33girl is pretty much right-on with the sitch as it stands at W&L.