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33girl · #16 11-10-2003, 12:35 AM

I don't think the two things have any connection at all. To say that little kids dressing like "tramps and thugs" = little kids dressing like teenagers is wrong. Not all teens dress in that manner and to say that they all do is very wrong.

I was a little old lady when I was a kid. I still like cartoons (preferably Beavis and Butt-Head). I would rather wear jeans and a t-shirt than a dress or suit any day. I despise being called "Ma'am" as it is a contraction for Madam, which implies a married person. I don't like the assumption that since I am on the other side of 25, I should be married.

I was just reading Cher's bio and I think her experience is somewhat typical of a lot of women. She married very young and then divorced and discovered all the things she missed. I guess Miss M finds it distasteful that 40 year old Cher dated a 22 year old man who is one of the hottest things I've ever seen. I doubt that she would have a problem with a 40 year old man dating a 22 year old woman.

in other words, I think Miss Manners is full of shit.

There's nothing wrong with looking 40 when you are 40. There is something wrong with looking 40 when you are 25. This was epidemic in my hometown - I was the freak as I was 24 and still not attached - which is why I got the hell out.

juniorgrrl · #17 11-10-2003, 01:14 AM

Hahah, 33girl...funny!

I do agree that there are lots of kids without any discipline and that there are some people trying too hard to be young.

There's a woman in one of my classes and she's easily on the other side of 40. But she hangs out with some girls that are 23 or 24 and dresses like them. It's kind of sad to see a 40something year old woman wearing low rise boot cut jeans with an Abercrombie tee and a newsboy cap. It just looks silly. She doesn't have to dress like Martha Stewart, but the teenybopper crap is way too young for her.

I don't agree that its inapropriate for adults to be watching cartoons. I'm 23 and will never stop watching them. I know when its a proper time and place to rock my Hello Kitty gear, and when its not (i.e., I don't wear them to school!). I hate it when people call me ma'am. FI's sister-in-law is due with a baby any day now and we've requested to NOT be called aunt and uncle - we just don't feel old enough for it.

Optimist Prime · #18 11-10-2003, 02:49 AM

Too bad it will never change. Well it will eventually, but we'll all be dead.

James · #19 11-10-2003, 01:27 PM

I don't much care what people do or what people wear . . .

Men of any age will wear pretty much the same types of clothes.

So does age appropriate dress mostly pertain to women?

And is it women that mostly care or notice?

If men see a scantily clad female the only thing we really care about is how good she looks scantily clad.

The only reason we discriminate on the basis of age is because standards of desirability in women center on youthfulness.

If you think of make-up, it is designed to enhance but also to make features look as if they are in the first flush of youth.

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Originally posted by juniorgrrl
Hahah, 33girl...funny!

I do agree that there are lots of kids without any discipline and that there are some people trying too hard to be young.

There's a woman in one of my classes and she's easily on the other side of 40. But she hangs out with some girls that are 23 or 24 and dresses like them. It's kind of sad to see a 40something year old woman wearing low rise boot cut jeans with an Abercrombie tee and a newsboy cap. It just looks silly. She doesn't have to dress like Martha Stewart, but the teenybopper crap is way too young for her.

I don't agree that its inapropriate for adults to be watching cartoons. I'm 23 and will never stop watching them. I know when its a proper time and place to rock my Hello Kitty gear, and when its not (i.e., I don't wear them to school!). I hate it when people call me ma'am. FI's sister-in-law is due with a baby any day now and we've requested to NOT be called aunt and uncle - we just don't feel old enough for it.

valkyrie · #20 11-10-2003, 03:11 PM

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The only reason we discriminate on the basis of age is because standards of desirability in women center on youthfulness.

I think this is true to a point, but it sucks. No matter how old you are, I say if you've got it, flaunt it. Just because you're in your thirties (or older) doesn't mean you should have no sense of style. If you look good and feel good, go for it.

33girl · #21 11-10-2003, 03:37 PM

Yes, and if you don't got it, don't flaunt it. Some women just don't know when to quit.

I used to wear miniskirts, often. I haven't for a long time because I don't have the body I used to and am aware of that fact. But some women think just because they could wear it at 19 they can wear it at 39.

However - if I still had the bod I used to back in the day - would I wear short shorts and minis? Hell yes.

incidentally, I've always been a sort of tailored/classic dresser. It's probably been a lot easier for me than someone who always wore the cutting-edge clothes the minute they came out.

Rudey · #22 11-10-2003, 03:47 PM

The thing is that youth works heavily for some girls. A lot of the girls that are cute in high school and the early part of college just sorta become hideous and whorish after a while. That's why I always go after high school girls. I keep getting older but they stay the same age.

-Rudey
--They have to be a little more than cute though.

aephi alum · #23 11-10-2003, 04:24 PM

I agree that children are growing up too fast. They're being exposed to sex and violence at a young age (

) rather than being allowed to be innocent. Clothing designers make midriff-baring tops and short shorts in little-girl sizes - because they sell. Kids are wearing inappropriate outfits to school (which is why I support strict dress codes in schools).

I can also see the argument that a lot of adults are blurring the line between childhood and adulthood. I have been introduced to 5yo kids by my first name - I'm in my 20s but it still rankles me. I've given up my seat on the subway and had people look at me like wtf? It seems like a lot of parents want to be friends with their kids first, rather than authority figures. (Disclaimer: I am not yet a parent.)

As for clothes, I agree, if you've got it, flaunt it

but if you don't got it, don't flaunt it. If you're five years old, you don't got it. If you look like mutton dressed as lamb, you don't got it.

juniorgrrl · #24 11-10-2003, 04:27 PM

The woman I was referring to is kind of pathetic because her face looks her age, if not older. She's got a decent body, but the face just doesn't match the clothes. She just comes off as trying too hard to look like she's 15.

I think it depends on the total package - if you look young, dress young. If you have a more mature look, then go with something more apropriate- otherwise you'll just look like you're playing dressup in your grandkids' clothes