Another cultural phenomenon: Rape - Page 2

UDZETA · #16 10-24-2003, 05:02 PM

This is really sad....people need to be educated about these things. Horrible things like this go on in very place including America.

GeekyPenguin · #17 10-24-2003, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by honeychile
Saying that the cited article disgusts and appalls me doesn't even begin to speak of how I feel about this.

But let's talk about the US. I volunteer at a divorce recovery seminar, and I am always surprised when the statistic of 1 out of every 4 females has been sexually molested or raped by the age of 18, while 1 out of every 12 males has been sexually molested or raped by the age of 18. When I question it, there are always those who will make me understand that the statistic works.

Discussion?

That statistic is really skewed. I'm taking a class that does a lot of work with public opinion right now, and some of the things that were included in that study were really bogus. For example, say I went to a movie with a boy, kissed him, and regretted it later. He "molested" me according to some of the questions that were used. I'll ask my professor next week to get me some more of the stats on that.

UDZETA · #18 10-24-2003, 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
That statistic is really skewed. I'm taking a class that does a lot of work with public opinion right now, and some of the things that were included in that study were really bogus. For example, say I went to a movie with a boy, kissed him, and regretted it later. He "molested" me according to some of the questions that were used. I'll ask my professor next week to get me some more of the stats on that.

This is true but that still doesn't change the fact that is still going on....and think of the people who do not report a rape. It is truely sad. You do bring up a good point.

sugar and spice · #19 10-24-2003, 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by honeychile
Saying that the cited article disgusts and appalls me doesn't even begin to speak of how I feel about this.

But let's talk about the US. I volunteer at a divorce recovery seminar, and I am always surprised when the statistic of 1 out of every 4 females has been sexually molested or raped by the age of 18, while 1 out of every 12 males has been sexually molested or raped by the age of 18. When I question it, there are always those who will make me understand that the statistic works.

Discussion?

I read somewhere that the majority of guys that were raped were not raped by women, but by men. Anybody got statistics to back that one up?

decadence · #20 10-24-2003, 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice: I read somewhere that the majority of guys that were raped were not raped by women, but by men. Anybody got statistics to back that one up?

Your point?
(i.e would that mitigate it??)

Rudey · #21 10-24-2003, 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by decadence
Your point?
(i.e would that mitigate it??)

Basically we think you're a rapist Richard.

-Rudey
--It's scary.

MereMere21 · #22 10-24-2003, 05:17 PM

*slight hijack*

Rudey you said rape is not acceptable in the United States?

Why then does a woman's sexual history come into play in a rape case in court? why is that relevant (IE: Kobe Bryant's accusar who they tried to discredit by saying she had sex 3 days before the attack

)

Half the rapes in this country go unreported

Imthachamp · #23 10-24-2003, 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Basically we think you're a rapist Richard.

-Rudey
--It's scary.

x2

decadence · #24 10-24-2003, 05:20 PM

'Ha-ha'. That wasn't what I thought or implied.
I just wondered if she was wondering about the ratio of female to male (victim) versus male to male rapes, period; or pseudo-commenting that the figures didn't place as much blame on males as perhaps they should (or could)/suggesting one type of rape was 'less serious' than the next.

sugar and spice · #25 10-24-2003, 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by decadence
Your point?
(i.e would that mitigate it??)

Nope, just curious. A lot of people think that rape automatically means male vs female.

GeekyPenguin · #26 10-24-2003, 05:28 PM

Also - it would be much more difficult for a woman to rape a man than for a man to rape a man.

decadence · #27 10-24-2003, 05:29 PM

GP - obviously. I was simply querying what she meant by her original post which she kindly clarified.

Rudey · #28 10-24-2003, 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by MereMere21
*slight hijack*

Rudey you said rape is not acceptable in the United States?

Why then does a woman's sexual history come into play in a rape case in court? why is that relevant (IE: Kobe Bryant's accusar who they tried to discredit by saying she had sex 3 days before the attack )

Half the rapes in this country go unreported

Because Kobe Bryant is already on trial for rape signifying it's not acceptable. The fact is you don't throw everyone and their mom in jail because some woman decides to cry rape. This lady not only has a history that can be used to establish the fact that she's unstable and lying, was seen afterwards acting as if nothign had happened by her coworker although claiming she was distraught, and also the latest evidence of another man's sperm. All that combined are good in helping paint a picture of this woman that could show that she is lying by the defense.

-Rudey
--Innocent until proven guilty by the way since you keep bringing up Kobe.

adpialumcsuc · #29 10-24-2003, 05:32 PM

I have read this article before and I think it made me as mad the first time as it did the second.
Culture or no culture it is still wrong

MereMere21 · #30 10-24-2003, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Because Kobe Bryant is already on trial for rape signifying it's not acceptable. The fact is you don't throw everyone and their mom in jail because some woman decides to cry rape. This lady not only has a history that can be used to establish the fact that she's unstable and lying, was seen afterwards acting as if nothign had happened by her coworker although claiming she was distraught, and also the latest evidence of another man's sperm. All that combined are good in helping paint a picture of this woman that could show that she is lying by the defense.

-Rudey
--Innocent until proven guilty by the way since you keep bringing up Kobe.

OK Kobe was the only known case I could come up with at the last minute. It is a common practice though to bring a woman's sexual history into court for a rape case for the reasons you mentioned. All I was saying was that most rapes go unreported because women don't want to go through that embarressment. Just playing Devil's Advocate with the 'rapes not being accepted in the U.S."