SAE gone form UNT! - Page 2

texas*princess · #16 10-22-2003, 03:35 PM

hehehe

ok...no more thread hi-jacking from me

Kristin AGD · #17 10-22-2003, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Txsurfinwaves
we used to have 13 fraternities on this campus, and are now down to 7.

What?!!

This is a tragedy. Back in the early 90's their were around 20 groups. And new groups forming. (My memory is fading, but I thought there were 7 sororities & 23 fraternities in 1990.)

I think the bad press has really hurt greek life overall up there. I think the fraternities that have put themselves in these situations have not only hurt themselves, but the entire greek system at UNT.

I keep hearing how UNT is so anti-greek. But I was GDI there for three years and don't remember this being the case. They have a diverse campus, with students having lots of other interests. But I don't remember a lot of greek-hate circulating. But when you are losing GLO's all the time to stupid reasons like this, it doesn't surprise me that the current climate is more hostile.

This is a good lesson to other campuses on how it is so very easy for the greek system to lose its momentum and slide downhill.

TKEmanKM · #18 10-22-2003, 05:03 PM

I know the feeling, we in NW PA have lost 3 fraternities and like 4 Sororities since our last president came here. He is very Anti Greek. It is sad when people who did not make it through their pledge process in college pay back the whole greek system when they get a little power.

I thought I heard that we were trying to get an SAE here. Dont know though it was just floating around.

I know we are working on getting another fraternity here, after Phi Kappa Theta got knocked off.

MereMere21 · #19 10-22-2003, 05:34 PM

I never thought UNT was anti-greek - TWU, that was an anti-greek campus.

While I was up there, the fraternities were being put on social probation one after the other - I remember we couldn't mix with our brother fraternity Lambda Chi because they were always in trouble. I hadn't heard about the SAE's, but mainly because they didn't really do stuff with us.

This is really sad though

Didn't they just move to a new house a few years ago?

Tom Earp · #20 10-22-2003, 06:17 PM

Meremere. as I understand LXA is back on campus and gained a lot of New Associate Members! It is a shame that the Administration is anti Greek! I have only one thing to say, They Are Friggin Morons in the long hall of the total picture!

Greeks can and will be a plus on any Campus!

Mikej11 · #21 10-22-2003, 06:46 PM

It is very hard for the Greeks to unite at UNT.

I have been apart of the Greek system since Fall 1999 and have seen all the fraternities get kicked off or disband. The fraternity system at UNT is a very traditional system. My own fraternity like SAE used to practiced many pledge activities and put our selves in bad positions. As a chapter we find that the hazing system did not work, and quickly changed our focus to what is important in our fraternity - Brotherhood, Grades, Service Projects, and Having Fun - and completely stopped hazing our new members. We are a better chapter for doing so.

I think UNT does not have a big Greek system because the school does not allow the Greeks to be a major part of Freshmen Orientation like it is in most schools that have big Greek systems. Also too, not all of the Fraternities at UNT like each other, so it will be hard for us to unite. I do think, if we as a Greek system could come together and support one another then we will see our Fraternities average 100+ men and our Sororities average 125+ women. Plus we will see many new GLOs come into the system.

This is just my 2 cents.

Txsurfinwaves · #22 10-22-2003, 08:21 PM

I wasnt talking about the fraternities uniting, i was talking about the sororities. We have an awesome NPC community, and with the new sorority row, i think it will be even better. I know texas*princess will agree with me on this one.

The fraternities here have major competition, and are always bashing on the other.

However, we are always agreeing on how different fraternities and sororities are.

Maybe UNT used to not be so anti-greek, but with the NT Daily always printing negative articles with maybe a line of positive at the very end- its hard for GDI's to see us in a great light. I know the reporters tried to get our Greek Advisor to say negative things about Greeks, and kept badgering her with questions even though we hadn't done anything. In the article they were trying to quote her on, they didnt even mention it because all she said was positive things.

At our sorority ground-breaking, all the reporters did was ask us about SAE....not about how we felt about getting this awesome new complex to unite the sororities.

Yes, Tom, LXA is back on campus...and are stronger than ever! They have a great fraternity up here since coming back on campus.

MereMere21 · #23 10-22-2003, 08:34 PM

Y'all are getting a sorority row? how awesome. I knew ADPi had a house, is that still the only one?

I'm happy that the LXA's are back and doing well

Txsurfinwaves · #24 10-22-2003, 08:38 PM

Yes...ADPi is the only one that has a house. Thats what texas*princess is

However, they are selling the house(i think?) and the other sororites, except Chi-O, sold their land and are building a "sorority complex".

The sororities at UNT are Alpha Delta Pi, Alpha Phi, Kappa Kappa Gamma, Pi Beta Phi, Zeta Tau Alpha, and Chi Omega.

Our row will be really close to fraternity row, so we are slowly taking over campus. hahaha.

Txsurfinwaves · #25 10-22-2003, 08:40 PM

The funny thing is, here in denton there was a law or something that said that if there were 5 girls or more in a house, it was considered a whore house. I guess they changed the law, or gave us an exception like they did with ADPi...so we get our sorority row.

MereMere21 · #26 10-22-2003, 09:20 PM

yeah that stupid law was the reason we didn't have houses at TWU. We had dorm floors instead - it was fun, but at the same time, we all wanted our own house!

I bet all the T dub sororities are oh so jealous right now

Kevin · #27 10-22-2003, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mikej11
It is very hard for the Greeks to unite at UNT.

I have been apart of the Greek system since Fall 1999 and have seen all the fraternities get kicked off or disband. The fraternity system at UNT is a very traditional system. My own fraternity like SAE used to practiced many pledge activities and put our selves in bad positions. As a chapter we find that the hazing system did not work, and quickly changed our focus to what is important in our fraternity - Brotherhood, Grades, Service Projects, and Having Fun - and completely stopped hazing our new members. We are a better chapter for doing so.

I think UNT does not have a big Greek system because the school does not allow the Greeks to be a major part of Freshmen Orientation like it is in most schools that have big Greek systems. Also too, not all of the Fraternities at UNT like each other, so it will be hard for us to unite. I do think, if we as a Greek system could come together and support one another then we will see our Fraternities average 100+ men and our Sororities average 125+ women. Plus we will see many new GLOs come into the system.

This is just my 2 cents.

Mike, I hear you here.

Fraternities at UNT have *every* opportunity to succeed. I'm well aquainted with your Sigma Nu chapter there and they are very successful and don't haze. How is that done?

National programming.

Their chapter has won several national awards for the way in which they have implemented our national programming.

I know from them that fraternities at UNT have every opportunity to succeed. They school is large enough that it can support a lot of successful chapters. Why groups like SAE didn't capitalize on this in the right way is beyond me.

Congratulations to ya'll for seeing the light!

I agree that a stronger system can be attained through greek unity. It's tough though. You must be able to work as a group to acheive the greater good while looking for individual success. The balance is a difficult one to find. Through lots of work and a strong IFC, this can be attained.

DeltaSigStan · #28 10-22-2003, 09:45 PM

I was told North Texas was on of our best Texas chapters by a Delta Sig "classless clown" (Tech). So.......this is kind of a shock to know they're anti-greek and have a smaller greek system than I thought.

Txsurfinwaves · #29 10-22-2003, 09:52 PM

The Delta Sigs here at UNT are really cool guys- have a strong brotherhood and are fine upstanding gentleman. Im going with one of them to Pi Phi formal- the first night i met this guy, he told me the first rule they were taught was that they had to treat sorority girls with the utmost respect. Delta Sig has won the gentlemans award the past couple of years, as has Sigma Nu. Thats probably why they are rivals...they are probably the two strongest chapters, since SAE is no more.

Mikej11 · #30 10-22-2003, 10:02 PM

Txsurfinwaves -
What is your take on the other Fraternities at UNT?
As a Sorority woman at UNT what would be good ways for both Fraternities and Sororities at UNT to Unite?