Baby born well-prepared for College

[CatStarESP4]

What was that girl thinking?! I just hope that the baby is okay and didn't suffer any brain damage!

Several years ago, I was staying at a hotel in Missouri. I saw a woman who was visibly pregnant smoking a cigarette. I was like WTF, didn't she know that she wasn't supposed to smoke while pregnant. I don't know how the baby turned out, if he or she was born at all. She was very selfish doing that!

[moe.ron]

Liquor Store Clerk (to pregnant woman):
Remember to eat a green thing everyday, and have lots of calcium. It's very important for young mothers to have lots of calcium. There you are. See you tomorrow night.

Originally posted by valkyrie
I don't know if you're serious or not, but I actually agree with this statement.

Please tell me you don't think it's actually okay to smoke or drink while you're pregnant. Please, please tell me I'm misinterpreting you.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

I think my post was deleted.

This is terrible about the poor drunk baby. I hope that the baby is ok.

lol@KR and AEPhiAlum

[breathesgelatin]

That is one of the saddest things I have ever heard. I had a friend that was affected with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS) when I was younger. She had been adopted at birth and was a sweet, wonderful, person. She was very socially and intellectually behind though, and as we got older we necessarily grew apart. She did graduate from high school... She is a wonderful person but the potential that she had was reduced by this horrible affliction.

[swissmiss04]

I suppose this is just out of sheer curiosity, but how did they know the baby was under the influence? I'm assuming that *that* much alcohol in the mother's system made for a somewhat less painful delivery.

[Optimist Prime]

will the baby have
FAS? I hope not

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by Ginger
Please tell me you don't think it's actually okay to smoke or drink while you're pregnant. Please, please tell me I'm misinterpreting you.

I'm not expressing my personal opinion one way or the other on how pregnant women should conduct themselves. I'm saying that, in my opinion, a woman's right to privacy should always overrule the "rights" of a fetus, and putting women in jail for things that they do while pregnant is frightening.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by valkyrie
I'm not expressing my personal opinion one way or the other on how pregnant women should conduct themselves. I'm saying that, in my opinion, a woman's right to privacy should always overrule the "rights" of a fetus, and putting women in jail for things that they do while pregnant is frightening.

Yes but a man's rule over his woman, essentially brings the rights of the fetus under his supervision if you think about it really.

-Rudey
--That means I can tell my woman to stop sniffing coke and put headphones on her tummy and listen to mozart any day or she'll be punished.

[bethany1982]

Originally posted by Rudey
Yes but a man's rule over his woman, essentially brings the rights of the fetus under his supervision if you think about it really.

-Rudey
--That means I can tell my woman to stop sniffing coke and put headphones on her tummy and listen to mozart any day or she'll be punished.

LOL! Darn....

[G8Ralphaxi]

Originally posted by valkyrie
I'm not expressing my personal opinion one way or the other on how pregnant women should conduct themselves. I'm saying that, in my opinion, a woman's right to privacy should always overrule the "rights" of a fetus, and putting women in jail for things that they do while pregnant is frightening.

I know I'm skirting dangerously close to the edge of the abortion debate with these thoughts, but I just have to respectfully disagree with you.

There is a huge difference between drinking/smoking/etc. at the beginning of a pregnancy - especially when you may not know you're pregnant - and doing it at the end.

This woman clearly knew she was pregnant. She knew she was very pregnant, about to give birth. She apparently intended to have the child, or I would assume that she would have had an abortion earlier.

If a mother gave alcohol or drugs to a baby or toddler, that would be child abuse. No question about that. So if she does the same thing in the last part of her pregnancy - giving alcohol or drugs to her unborn child by taking them herself - she should be held accountable!

I agree with all the people who think you should need a license to have a child! For goodness sakes, it's harder to get a driver's license!

[Rudey]

I feel torn ladies and gentlemen. Follow my train of thought.

1. I'm a freak and love big pregnant women.
2. I love all my women to be drunk before hooking up with them.
3. I don't want to give the baby potential brain damage

-Rudey
--How do I satisfy my freak fetish while not creating kids with foreheads big enough to show movies on?

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by Rudey
How do I satisfy my freak fetish while not creating kids with foreheads big enough to show movies on?

I think that this question is going to keep me up all night.

[cash78mere]

Originally posted by valkyrie
I'm saying that, in my opinion, a woman's right to privacy should always overrule the "rights" of a fetus, and putting women in jail for things that they do while pregnant is frightening.

you're right. a woman should be allowed to do whatever she wants while she is pregnant as long as it is not harming her unborn baby. it is a well proven and studied fact that drinking alcohol while pregnant can cause irreperable damage that the child will have to live with.

so if the mom wants to go out dancing til 3am, or wear skanky clothes or gain lots of weight, go for it. but if she's drinking, smoking or doing drugs that is messed up and might ruin her unborn child for life.

she had 3 times the legal limit. 3 times. imagine how many times that is for a little baby.

scary.

a woman's body is not her own for 9 months while pregnant. she has to share it with another body and is solely in charge of how her baby will turn out. (except of course for birth defects that just happen--i'm not referring to them)

[BirthaBlue4]

Hmmm. Yes, a woman, or a man, can do whatever she wants. But when doing that affects someone else, THEN the rules get involved. That baby didn't ask to get drunk. SHE wanted to booze it up. So, technically, she can be charged with

*a crime against a minor
*child abuse
*giving alcoholic beverages to a person under 21 (OMG!!!!!!!! This is illegal???!?!?!?!?! )

Whatever you believe about the baby/fetus debate (its a baby), this is just straight up wrong, and no one can in all honesty deny this.