stop asking people to pray - Page 2

PsychTau · #16 09-15-2003, 01:06 AM

WEEEELLLLLLL, apparently I missed OP's intent also.

But at least he started a good conversation!!

kappaloo · #17 09-15-2003, 01:15 AM

Speaking from someone who doesn't acknowledge the existance or unexistance of a God figure (umm... agnostic anyone?)....

I really could care less if people ask on a public board for people to "pray" for other etc. I mean, it's a public board and they're basically asking for support. I'll usually reply that I'll keep that people 'in my thoughts' regardless of whether I think of thinking of a person will help any.

However, in any type of professional setting taking place outside a church or church organization, asking for people to pray is highly inconsiderate. It would make me highly uncomfortable since I would just be there doing nothing. I do prefer 'moments of silence' since I will reflect on live and the ability for people to change and turn for the better. (umm... depending on circumstance)

I rather like when people say they'll pray for me... unless of course, they mean it in the way that I need to change... LOL.

DeltAlum · #18 09-15-2003, 01:16 AM

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Originally posted by bluz4
i thought the subject was a general vent, not anything personal. i think i missed the boat with you, 33girl!

No, I think you're exactly right. Nothing personal. A lot of people have been posting "Please pray for...whatever" recently and I think OP's post was to everyone.

I don't agree with him in some cases, but he has shared his opinion and now I've shared mine.

ZHLyreGirl · #19 09-15-2003, 01:56 AM

sorry about that.i didn't mean for my post to bring up any bad blood and if i knew it would have offened so many people, i wouldn't have done it at all. i guess i was just asking more for support then anything else. if you've ever had a fellow greek your age on your campus have a sudden tragic death then youll understand. we're a smaller school and our greek system, while enduring the rivels and fights, is also incredible close. This incident has basiclly stopped everything tonight, and now the NM's of that house are going to remember this as part of their calling out day. I'm not asking for pity, just next time try to thinki about what you're doing before you do it please. i don't post often, and usually do when i feel the need to. This is just one of those things that our system needed support for at this time, and since basiclly everyone i ever been around ( whatever their religion) always seemed to respect that request, even if they were offend by it ( the request being to pray for someone) and didn't complain. Appearently this isn't that kind of place, although i thought it would be. Thank you to everyone who did offer support. and again i'm sorry to offend anyone with this post or the other thread. Just remember next time some one asks you to pray for something for them, think about how you might feel if someone seem to say "no i will not support you at this time because of the way you happened to ask" especially when the thing you are asking support for is the death of a decent human.

Jill1228 · #20 09-15-2003, 02:19 AM

I agree with you. If I ask for support I say, "I need thoughts, prayers, vibes, whateva!" That covers it all.

If someone says prayers are needed for "so and so"
I say "so and so and their family are in my thoughts" and I mean it!

I too am bordering on agnostic

Quote:

Originally posted by kappaloo
Speaking from someone who doesn't acknowledge the existance or unexistance of a God figure (umm... agnostic anyone?)....

I really could care less if people ask on a public board for people to "pray" for other etc. I mean, it's a public board and they're basically asking for support. I'll usually reply that I'll keep that people 'in my thoughts' regardless of whether I think of thinking of a person will help any.

However, in any type of professional setting taking place outside a church or church organization, asking for people to pray is highly inconsiderate. It would make me highly uncomfortable since I would just be there doing nothing. I do prefer 'moments of silence' since I will reflect on live and the ability for people to change and turn for the better. (umm... depending on circumstance)

I rather like when people say they'll pray for me... unless of course, they mean it in the way that I need to change... LOL.

Optimist Prime · #21 09-15-2003, 03:28 AM

I don't worship statues.

I don't pray either.

JohnsDGsweethrt · #22 09-15-2003, 03:31 AM

Well everyone puhlease forgive me for asking if you were so willing to pray for my dying friend! For those of you who did pray for her I can't thank you enough. It was certainly not a statement of either pray for her or suffer the firey lake of hell! Geez. If you don't like the post then...

DON'T FREAKIN READ IT!

Which reminds me I shouldn't have read this post. Oh well! LOL

mmcat · #23 09-15-2003, 07:52 AM

in texas schools, the moment of silence is now mandatory each morning after the pledge of allegiance and the texas pledge.
you can do whatever you like in that moment.

LouisaMay · #24 09-15-2003, 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by ZHLyreGirl
sorry about that.i didn't mean for my post to bring up any bad blood and if i knew it would have offened so many people, i wouldn't have done it at all. i guess i was just asking more for support then anything else.

You do NOT need to apologize! You are free to post how you feel and what you hope for. Posters OFTEN post plenty of requests/commands/wishes. "Have fun!" "Keep your fingers crossed." "Shut up." "Edit your post." "Good luck." etc, etc, etc.

We don't always expect everyone to listen to us, but we put our thoughts out there to an open audience. I don't personally believe in "luck," but it doesn't bother me if someone wishes me good luck. I know what they really mean is "I hope things work out for you." I don't believe in destiny, but I don't get all upset when almost every rush thread says, "you'll end up where you are supposed to be." I don't believe that for a second...lots of factors come into play in rush, but I know that the poster means "you might not get the house you want, but you can make the best of it and be happy." I don't agree with the words, but I agree with the sentiment. When we ask for prayer, we don't expect for every GC'er to hit his/her knees; we asking for support and awareness of sad/bad situation.

honeychile · #25 09-15-2003, 09:00 AM

Somebody posted earlier on this thread that not everyone will go along with a suggestion to pray. Well, if I offer to go get coffee or pizza, guess what? Not everyone's going to go along with that, either!

I am SO SORRY that there are people who offended by such a simple and heartfelt request! Nobody demanded that we all stop, hold hands, and sing, 'Kum By Yah", for pity's sake!

At the risk of being redundant, if it offends you, DON'T DO IT!!!!

I don't get bent out of shape when I see signatures that I totally disagree with, or come down on someone who states something when I have the opposite opinion - I just move on!! It's called being mature. I would be willing to bet money that most GLOs make some mention of a Supreme Being, so if you're having a problem with a request for prayer, maybe you ought to look first at your ritual and see how much of a hypocrite you really are.

ZHLyreGirl, you were NOT out of line. If the PC Police figure that this board is off limits to prayer requests, please feel free to pm me at any time.

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kddani · #26 09-15-2003, 09:45 AM

Quite honestly, i'm more "offended" by people who can show this extreme amount of disrespect and disregard for people in their time of need. People asking for prayer are generally in a time of need b/c of a loss of life or illness of a loved one.

Guess what, no one asked anyone in particular to pray for them! No one said, hey, (fill in GC username here), pray for me.

Kevin · #27 09-15-2003, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by kddani
Quite honestly, i'm more "offended" by people who can show this extreme amount of disrespect and disregard for people in their time of need. People asking for prayer are generally in a time of need b/c of a loss of life or illness of a loved one.

Guess what, no one asked anyone in particular to pray for them! No one said, hey, (fill in GC username here), pray for me.

Absolutely. Folks these days need to be a lot more thick-skinned. You're not ever going to be a happy person if you go through life looking for people to "offend" you and then forcing them to take back their words or something.

If someone is offended by hearing the words "pray for ___" the only response that I can really come up with is "Get a life".

DeltAlum · #28 09-15-2003, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by kddani
Quite honestly, i'm more "offended" by people who can show this extreme amount of disrespect and disregard for people in their time of need. People asking for prayer are generally in a time of need b/c of a loss of life or illness of a loved one.

Agree. Nobody's trying to convert anyone to Christianity or other parying religion -- just asking for support.

I don't think that's too much to ask.

DZHBrown · #29 09-15-2003, 11:09 AM

I just have to agree with the people that say asking for prayers is not a mandate. If you don't pray, then don't read the thread, ignore that post, whatever. But getting uptight about it is a little ridiculous. A lot of people are comforted by prayers and a lot of people believe in the power of prayer. You don't. Okay, that's fine. No one is forcing you to. Just like we're not forcing you to pray, you shouldn't force us to stop doing it or asking for it.

wptw · #30 09-15-2003, 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by DZHBrown
If you don't pray, then don't read the thread, ignore that post, whatever.

So I have to read your post to decide whether I want to read it, and if I read it and decide I don’t want to read it, then I shouldn’t have read it? Should I then remember to forget it?

wptw