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Old 08-26-2003, 11:06 PM
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Shame, shame, shame on those terrible Panhellenic women at Iowa State who kidnap freshman women and *force* them to go through rush against their wills
Yeah, there ought to be some kind of law against that stuff.

Someday this woman will undoubtedly be a professional TV or movie critic.

They don't like anything either.
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Old 08-26-2003, 11:23 PM
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Part of me thinks that it would serve the Pulitzer-deprived author right if hundreds of GLO member sent her an email that said one word, "Baaa!"

But that would only make her think that people took her seriously.

I wonder if her other campus activity groups will be there when she's 50 or if she moves to another state? Will they even care if she wins a Pulitzer?

She sounds like a very sad sheep herself - can't find something nice to say about a group of individuals of whom she's secretly jealous.
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Old 08-26-2003, 11:30 PM
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LETTER: Sorority column is full of stereotypes

August 26, 2003

There are more closed-minded stereotypes in Alicia Ebaugh's Aug. 25 column, "Sorority life is becoming obsolete" than I could even count.

We are diverse, intelligent and apparently more open-minded than those taking an anti-greek stance. There is nothing elitist about sororities; if you are going to attack, at least have a credible point.

You could attack our drinking. But wait, all sororities are dry and actually obey that rule, unlike people in the dorms. You could attack our poor academic abilities. But no, our average GPA is higher than the campus average.

You say we buy our friends? I guess that applies to the dorms too, especially considering that dorms end up costing more than living in a sorority house.

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Old 08-26-2003, 11:31 PM
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LETTER: Sorority experience valuable to women

August 26, 2003

As an alumna of an ISU sorority, I would like to reassure the author of the Aug. 25 column "Sorority life is becoming obsolete" that I know countless women who have joined sororities for the leadership opportunities and are still members today.

I am one of those women. I grew up 1,400 miles away from Ames and started my freshman year at Iowa State knowing only one other student. Joining a sorority instantly provided me with a home away from home and allowed me to gain leadership experience that has helped me in my career. During my time at Iowa State, I grew from a shy, quiet person to a strong, confident leader and became one of the most influential women in my sorority.

Today, my closest friends are my sorority sisters, and even though we live all across the country, from Chicago to Houston to Los Angeles, we still keep in touch because we have a deep connection that means so much to all of us.

A sorority is more than matching outfits and candlelight ceremonies. A sorority is about friendship, shared values and working together toward common goals. A sorority gives a woman a chance to find out who she is and what she believes in. A sorority cannot really be explained, but is best when experienced.

Sorority women focus on "being there when your sister gets married" because that is one way to demonstrate that these connections are made for life. Sorority women know their sisters will be there at all important events in their lives, including graduations, first jobs and career accomplishments.

I recommend all women at Iowa State get to know sorority women instead of judging them. Perhaps if the author knew more women in sororities, she would have a better understanding of what sororities have to offer. Sororities at Iowa State have been inspiring women to realize their potential since 1877 and will continue to enrich women's lives in the future. As long as there are women interested in making lifelong friends, gaining leadership experience and helping others, sororities will always have an important place at Iowa State.

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Old 08-26-2003, 11:38 PM
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Re: Iowa State editorial on sororities

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...Granted, most women also join sororities for their philanthropic aspects, to build their resumes by taking leadership positions within the sorority, or to create connections related to their desired career after college. And some sororities are quite different from others.

But I don't know of any women who joined sororities for these reasons and are still members after a year or so. They learned they could get things done on their own...

Sounds like she doesn't know very many women.

Anyway, this is another one of those articles that we all hate, and that people are just going to continue to write. They are entitled to their opinion.

I think the only way to deal with this is for greeks just to write their own opinion pieces and get them published in school papers. Obviously for some schools thins might be more difficult. But it can be done.

And remember this girl is just the opinion editor, not an investigative reporter. So are her opinions really based on fact????
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Old 08-26-2003, 11:51 PM
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I believe Ms. Jaster and Ms. Soderholm wrote excellent counter opinions to the editorial.

But I think this guy said it best:

I'm am an alumnus of both Iowa State and the ISU greek system. I don't think a hair-brained columnist with no social (or writing) skills, should delve into something she doesn't understand. Maybe you should spend more time learning how to properly research and write. Note: stop ending your sentences in prepositions. I wrote for the Daily for two years, and I thought this type of low-blow journalism had finally been weeded out. I have an idea for you, Alicia. Come to Kansas City, sit in my brand new car, hang out in my fully furnished apartment, hang out for a day at work with my wife(she was greek too) or me, and then you can fully appreciate where the greek system can take you. Let's see if your sorry ass even has a job when you get out of school, let alone the Pulitzer.

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Old 08-27-2003, 12:15 AM
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I am getting very tired of people commenting on the lack of individuality within greek orgs due to wearing the same clothing. Wearing the same clothes is part of everyday life around the world: think of sports teams, boyscouts, certain professions, clergy, etc., etc., etc... It is a sign of unity. Someone obviously did not learn their cooperation skills in kindergarten
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Old 08-27-2003, 12:17 AM
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OT - same clothes

A lot of colleges are not near major shopping centers. Often wearing similar clothing is out of necessity, not out of sheep-ness.
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Old 08-27-2003, 06:11 PM
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Oh and I am SURE the comraderie that Alicia Ebaugh (I'm sorry but her name sounds like something a donkey would say!)
currently has experienced in her dorm will help her network her way to a decent job and provide life-long friendships -- in fact (sarcasm alert) don't all dorms have conventions and reunions like sororities -- yessiree, I can see why Alicia Ebaugh (hee-haw) prefers the life-long advantages a dorm offers

I think 33 girl said it best:
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Dear Alicia: kiss my ass!
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Old 08-27-2003, 07:17 PM
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Re: My 2 cents.

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Confused as to what your other thread has anything to do with this one and why you'd link to it from here?
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Old 08-27-2003, 07:17 PM
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I tried to look up the web site for the "daily" and was greeted with this message...

"Hello, Little Piggy. Are you lost?"


They do love their farm animals at the ISU Daily. No telling what they do to these poor little animals.
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Old 08-27-2003, 07:18 PM
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Yup, a whole lot more replies at the Daily today. It was a wrong move of Alicia to post something like that in a strong Greek community campus!
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Old 08-27-2003, 07:39 PM
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Confused as to what your other thread has anything to do with this one
I'll clarify: Nothing. I separated it from the main body of my reply with "----" to indicate it wasn't part of my main reply.
and why you'd link to it from here?
Just because I was posting a reply anyway and I wanted to put a pointer to that other unrelated thread for more to see it and p'raps contribute. Thought it wouldn't be a "biggie" to anyone if I did either way.
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Old 08-28-2003, 05:05 AM
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They do love their farm animals at the ISU Daily. No telling what they do to these poor little animals.
I think they may be hazing the little animals.
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