Central park assalts...

[LadyAKA]

Originally posted by PositivelyAKA:
how dare someone sit on their throne and say that someone who is sexually attacked somehow put themselves in a compromising position

Dear PositivelyAKA what throne are you referring to that I have cast myself upon? I would really like the chance to get to talk to your personally, you never did send me your e-mail address or post it.
Soror pretty3grl I understand your points and agree with most of it. .....


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[PositivelyAKA]

Originally posted by LadyAKA:
And PrettyoneNCD, yes I am very blessed to never have been a victim of such attacks but all I will say is I NEVER HAVE PUT MYSELF IN SUCH COMPROMISING POSITIONS - NEVER!
[This message has been edited by LadyAKA (edited June 21, 2000).]

your comment implies that these women and other victims of sexual assualts put themselves in the position to be attacked.
that type of attitude i do not agree with. many women do not come forward and press charges against their attackers becuase of that type of mentality. However it is your opinion and i will leave you to it. I just hope you will be more sensitive if and when this should ever happen to someone you love or yourself and statistics show that it probably will i am not interested in an email exchange. thank you.

[LadyAKA]

Thanks for voicing your opinion on the subject. I just wanted to state that what I think, 'should not' affect how others feel or react, especially women that have been victimized. Women need to have stronger minds. And since you have Jinxed me with the thought of being attacked I will just have to leave it up to the lord and pray that such things do not happen. And for all that you have said now and in the past I am sorry that you feel that way.

This was said with sisterly affection and I hope that we can end this discussion - well at least that you and I can move on. You reply to most all of my post with such
negative replies, I always wanted to talk to you off the cuff as not to disrespect the board or put too much business on the board - I don't understand why you don't
want to have email exchange - but I will take it at that.

Thanks and I wish you the best too.

P.S. The key word Implies should stand for itself, I stated something and you took it another way then what I meant.

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[Diva_56]

No one WANTS to be raped. I do believe in putting your self in a compromising position. But with some of those women, they didn't have much of a choice. One of the ladies that were attacked was on roller skates and was constantly being pushed back on the floor. She wasn't wearing anything that I would call inappropiate. It was also 95 degrees in the city that day so I could see some women in halter tops and tubes...


It was HOT! In any event LadyAKA your analogy is correct, but is is very hard to separate the two because of REPEATED screw ups by the police. No not all of the police officers are killers, but most of them don't live here in MY neighborhood or the neighboring towns and come to work every day with this "If one of them pulls out a gun shoot to kill, all of them are the same.." kind of attitude. I work in New Jersey and you wouldn't believe the racial profiling I and my boyfriend have to go through when he drives my car. We have been pulled over because of "suspicious behavior" THREE times this year. It is absolute BS!!!


I'm sorry but I am a fed up black woman in this city seeing our brothers and sisters (Including our latino brothers and sisters) being treated as if our lives dont matter by the police... Thank goodness there is an compassionate God... I don't deny that it is getting worse with the poice in this city and any where.

[LadyAKA]

Diva_56 thanks for claification, I think I now understand your point better.


I think I am at the point now that I want to do something, at least to try and fix these things....the jury is still out on that one, I don't think the marches we have now-a-days are good enough, the community needs to come together in a better way!

[HER_STORY]

i think what happened at the pr parade was terrible (as we all do) but i think that it has a lot to do with how we raise our sons. i think that we have to talk to them at an early age about what is acceptable and non acceptable behavior. but i am curious why the girls that were attacked are suing the city? how can they?

[tickledpink]

I think because some of the policemen stood by and watched it happen.

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>>>"Many women do noble things, but you surpass them all."
Charm is deceptive and beauty is fleeting, but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised... Proverbs 31:29-30

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[MaMaBuddha]

greeting ladeez of Alpha Kappa Alpha,

as greek from another sorority, i applaude your thoughts on this subject matter.

i just wanted to give my $19.13 cents worth the situation in central park.

on sunday, i was listening to the radio (a popular hip hop station in nyc) and was highly disappointed, there was a brother on the radio almost condoning what happended in central park. his statement basically was "the code of the streets say you dress like a hoochie, men will feel you up like a hoochie"
some of the women were in attendance to the boriqua (puerto rican)parade and some where not. some were dress in little shorts and little tank tops and some women were regularly dressed. young men in packs would surround the women and spray them with water guns and sexually grope them.

what upsets me is, i've visited europe and i've been to nude beaches were people literally walk around naked and are not bothered. this guy was on the radio station so-call quoting the code of the streets stating if women dress provactively, then they will be treated like meat.

so this tells me, that if one day, it is hot and i decide to throw on some shorts (not too short) and a tank top and then go rollerblading in central park and some guys that see me and find me sexually attractive and spray me with water and sexual grope me...it's OK?????

now and days how much sexual control do men have. you don't find me running up to a guy and grabbing his crotch when i find him attractive (in my case not likely *lol*)

the funny thing is he even tried to condone it but saying it's a machismo thing. I THINK NOT!!!!

i urge the young men out there don't follow in this idiot's footsteps. women should be able to dress as they please although we do agree everyone doesn't look good in everything, but that's okay! it's called R.E.S.P.E.C.T! use it!!!

i didn't address the police aspect on it because i have mixed feelings, the induring the fact the 99.9% of my family are police officers.

but what's going on with the men today????

MaMaBuddha
"the Delta from the Dirty South"
(cheese grits, fatback, and hogmahs)
delta alpha/epsilon tau
spring 94

[Stunning Jade]

Sorors let me just say this. I was watching BET last night with Tavis. He had on two of the women suing NY. One is senior at Howard U. She is articulate, respectable looking etc. The other sister is a mother, also respectable looking and articulate. Between all the posts I can't remember who said what but I do know one thing. When I saw the news and videos - I cried. Compromising position? They were in the park seeing the parade! That newlywed couple - same deal. NO woman asks to be assulted or raped. What she was wearing is a mute point. These "men" pulled womens tops off, tried to wrip their shorts off and put their hands down sister's pants! Some of these criminals were on 17! Let's not get caught up in what they were wearing or how they looked. These women are changed FOREVER. They could have been our mother, sister, cousin, daughter or soror or even our personal selves. When is our society (folks of color) going to get back to respecting women? When are we going to get back to respecting ourselves?

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We will remember not the words of our enemies but the silence of your friends. - Martin L. King Jr.

[Anydaynow]

I know this is an old thread but I have to bring this subject up.

While I was watching Crime Files today, they did a whole show on the central park attacks and to my dismay what did I see on one of the video tapes (besides the brutal assults)??

I saw a young man wearing an A PHI A shirt, cheering and spectating the event. His letters should be stripped from him. He disrespected those ladies, himself and A PHI A.

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[AKA2D '91]

Anydaynow:

Have you addressed this concern in the APhiA forum?