Is this REALLY true at super competitve schools?!

[meridionaleDG]

Originally posted by absolutuscchick
I think that the fact that a girl would do this is sad, but I think its even more sad that someone who joined a chapter at one school would not be accepted at another. If that were to happen to any girl, I can only imagine what a negative reflectionof the greek community it would be! I believe that ABC ought to be well-organized enough so that if any chapter chooses a girl, then that girl should be a girl of quality who reflects ABC, and who will be a member of ABC for LIFE, not just while she is at one particular school. I understand that girls obviously DO abuse this, but it is not at all fair to take a girl in and then practically throw her out.

Chapters at school vary from place to place. Some are weaker at other schools and so that chapter will take any girl they can get for numbers. It wouldn't be fair to force the same organization at another school to take this girl if she didn't fit in with the rest of them - and if the girl honestly was in it for the sisterhood and not the letters, she wouldn't want to be in a chapter where her and everyone else didn't get along anyway.

I think this could go along with my legacy thread. Kind of like should you take a legacy just because her mother was an ABC - as opposed to should you let a girl affiliate just because she was an ABC at another school?

It would be wonderful if every chapter of an organization all had the same personalities, but unfortunatly, just like accents in voices differ from place to place, so do chapters (and it may make you stick out like a soar thumb if you don't fit in).

I know people who are the opposite way around. They join a strong chapter of their organization somewhere, but when they transfer schools and find out the chapter there stinks, they drop out. Is it sad for them to do that? Maybe - but I don't think so. If you don't fit in with people you just don't fit in. You can't really force it because it will usually make matters worse.

Also, I can give you another example - you might hate BBB at your school and be so glad you didn't join that sorority, but if you are a ABC and want to affiliate with another ABC chapter - their chapter personality could be just like BBB at your old school. You wouldn't want to join that - so like them shouldn't the chapter have a say so in who they want to affiliate?

Yes, I have no life. I post too much. I am too opinionated. Sorry.

Edit: I also forgot to mention we just had a wonderful girl from the DG chapter at MSU affiliate with us in the Spring. She is a great girl and everything (affiliation wise) went very smoothly for her. She just clicked so well with all of us and now we just don't know how we lived without her!! What makes it even better is she is so happy with all of us too. Just thought I'd add a little positive note that not all affiliation proposals go bad.

[WhirlwindTNX]

Actually there was a rumor going on PITT's campus that a girl did exactly that. I heard it was either DZ, KD, Tri-S, or Tri-D. . .

[KillarneyRose]

Originally posted by WhirlwindTNX
Actually there was a rumor going on PITT's campus that a girl did exactly that. I heard it was either DZ, KD, Tri-S, or Tri-D. . .

Do you know if she rushed at Pitt and then transferred or if she rushed elsewhere then transferred to Pitt?

Thanks!

[Jill1228]

GMTA-Great Minds Think Alike!

Originally posted by texas*princess
I was thinking the same thing when I read this thread!

I read about that in the Southern Belle Primer!!!

[pinkyphimu]

in phi mu, a transfer has to wait one semester before she can affiliate with the chapter on her new campus. the chapter does have to "vote" but it is really more of a formality to make sure that she has paid her dues the other chapter and that she makes grades according to chapter standards on that campus.

[absolutuscchick]

Originally posted by meridionaleDG
Chapters at school vary from place to place. Some are weaker at other schools and so that chapter will take any girl they can get for numbers. It wouldn't be fair to force the same organization at another school to take this girl if she didn't fit in with the rest of them - and if the girl honestly was in it for the sisterhood and not the letters, she wouldn't want to be in a chapter where her and everyone else didn't get along anyway.

I think this could go along with my legacy thread. Kind of like should you take a legacy just because her mother was an ABC - as opposed to should you let a girl affiliate just because she was an ABC at another school?

It would be wonderful if every chapter of an organization all had the same personalities, but unfortunatly, just like accents in voices differ from place to place, so do chapters (and it may make you stick out like a soar thumb if you don't fit in).

I know people who are the opposite way around. They join a strong chapter of their organization somewhere, but when they transfer schools and find out the chapter there stinks, they drop out. Is it sad for them to do that? Maybe - but I don't think so. If you don't fit in with people you just don't fit in. You can't really force it because it will usually make matters worse.

Also, I can give you another example - you might hate BBB at your school and be so glad you didn't join that sorority, but if you are a ABC and want to affiliate with another ABC chapter - their chapter personality could be just like BBB at your old school. You wouldn't want to join that - so like them shouldn't the chapter have a say so in who they want to affiliate?

Yes, I have no life. I post too much. I am too opinionated. Sorry.

Edit: I also forgot to mention we just had a wonderful girl from the DG chapter at MSU affiliate with us in the Spring. She is a great girl and everything (affiliation wise) went very smoothly for her. She just clicked so well with all of us and now we just don't know how we lived without her!! What makes it even better is she is so happy with all of us too. Just thought I'd add a little positive note that not all affiliation proposals go bad.

But what would happen if a girl transferred to a new school, knew no one, and assumes that atleast her SISTERS would be there for her? And if they didn't get along the best, I would assume that the girl would not want to be a part of the house. But I just know if I transferred (which is hard enough!) and my sisters "let me down" (atleast that's how I would feel), I would be really, really hurt.

Sorry if I am being completely ridiculous and repeating the same thing for like 10 years!!

Meriondale: Yay for your "new member"!! It's awesome when things work out for the best

ALSO....a question again....so how exactly does a new girl join the chapter at the school she transfers to? I mean is it like COB or something, very informal??

[Glitter650]

I think the process in every Org is different... with Phi Sig... I believe it's just a phone call to national to make sure the sister left her old chapter in good standing and some paper work... there is no formal voting process or anything.. it's once a phi sig always a phi sig. Informally we do give them a nickname at initiation and get them a lion..(our chapter mascot) to make them feel welcome... We have 2 transfer sisters in my chapte(with another, who is on GC possibly on her way for spring '04) both are wonderful sisters that fit very well

[Angels&Arrows]

I know of this arising in two situations.... One in the early 90's, the other in the mid 90s.

In the early 90s, a young lady from the coast pledged Tri-Delta at MS State and transferred her sophomore year to USM. She affiliated after a semester and the love was mutual. It is always possible that she just wanted to be closer to home... but, rumor was a bit different (maybe, her not transferring in after fall semester fueled the rumors; back in the days we were not initiated until one full semester of pledging).

In the mid 90s, a young lady's mother sent her to pledge a certain chapter at USM, because mom was concerned that she would not be offered a bid at Auburn or UAL. This was very important as her father was a big wig at UAL and mom was a social butterfly. Please keep in mind that they are good people and a very old southern family. I am not telling this story for criticism, which is hard if you do not have an understanding of old southern families.

She was given a list of four/five acceptable chapters all of which are top chapters in AL. She pledged a chapter that is considered top tier in AL, but not so at USM... then decided she loved USM and was going to stay, but not within the chapter she pledged. So she depledged prior to initiation and went through formal rush a second time.

As far fetched as this may be.... it is a very true story... however, I always wondered why she left her first chapter... so I asked her one night and that is the story I got! And for all you PNMs who are going through rush a second time do not fear... Her second time, she was only cut from three chapters. (However, she still had her list)! Of course this was also an example of very involved/connected alums calling everyday... at first I thought it was just our chapter, but I quickly found out mom's friends were in many GLOs.

[WhirlwindTNX]

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Do you know if she rushed at Pitt and then transferred or if she rushed elsewhere then transferred to Pitt?

Thanks!

Yeah, I heard she rushed at Pitt and then transfered. It was some big scandal and of course "The Man" covered it up.

[kddani]

Pitt and then transferring to what school? It's not like we're near any of the huge places, except Penn State, and even then, this is the North!

It wasn't KD, no one's transferred out of the chapter. We had someone transfer into the chapter, but certainly not for those reasons.

Getting into the houses you named isn't exactly the easiest thing in the world either... those are pretty much some of the top houses (along with Chi O and KKG)

[WhirlwindTNX]

Originally posted by kddani
Pitt and then transferring to what school? It's not like we're near any of the huge places, except Penn State, and even then, this is the North!

It wasn't KD, no one's transferred out of the chapter. We had someone transfer into the chapter, but certainly not for those reasons.

Getting into the houses you named isn't exactly the easiest thing in the world either... those are pretty much some of the top houses (along with Chi O and KKG)

I know! It's horrible, if true. That's why it was such a big deal they had to cover it up. It's a BIG no-no in the north.

I'm pretty sure it was one of the Tri's. . .look at me gossiping. Shame on me!!!

[White_Chocolate]

It happens at our campus
Every single girl goes one sorority and then, they transfer

[33girl]

Originally posted by absolutuscchick
But what would happen if a girl transferred to a new school, knew no one, and assumes that atleast her SISTERS would be there for her? And if they didn't get along the best, I would assume that the girl would not want to be a part of the house. But I just know if I transferred (which is hard enough!) and my sisters "let me down" (atleast that's how I would feel), I would be really, really hurt.

Well, I think it depends on the chapter. If you don't have this happening a lot, you're probably not going to blink an eyelash - you'll just figure she transferred for normal reasons (major change, further/closer to home, $$$) and welcome her. But if you are a school like Auburn, where it's a social must not just to be in a sorority but the RIGHT sorority, and this happens often, you are probably going to give everyone a more serious once-over even if their reasons are legit. One thing I have learned in my life is that popular people really resent being used by someone climbing the social ladder...as well they should. If you transfer to a school like that with legit reasons, just realize this will happen & don't take it personally.

[meridionaleDG]

Originally posted by absolutuscchick


ALSO....a question again....so how exactly does a new girl join the chapter at the school she transfers to? I mean is it like COB or something, very informal??

Well, in DG if you want to affiliate her, you don't really rush her. It is just a matter of paperwork.

With the transfer we recently got, she started school at USM last Spring. She wanted to be closer to home, plus her family was having a few money issues. At USM we have a special building for sorority girls. She was put in another upperclass girl dormitory, but once her affiliation papers went through and everything was approved by both her old chapter and our chapter, greek life contacted residence life and they let her move into our dorms to live on the DG floors. We also had an affilition ritual/ceremony for her. I mean she was already initiated into DG, so we just initiated her into our chapter.

I hope all sorority chapters who get transfers are as lucky enough to get girls like the one we got. In 3 weeks it was like she had been there for years. Everything was just such a smooth and natural transition for her. She went from a HUGE sec school with 200+ girls in a chapter, to our school which the sororities sit around half that. So, she is only an hour away from home now, she pays a lot less in tuition and dues, she immediatly got 95 new sisters and 95 new friends, and from what she tells us she couldn't be happier.

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

Originally posted by absolutuscchick
ALSO....a question again....so how exactly does a new girl join the chapter at the school she transfers to? I mean is it like COB or something, very informal??

I transferred to the University of Puget Sound after being initiated at Washington University in St. Louis. My reasons were purely grades and I just happened to choose a school with a Gamma Phi Chapter.

My process was pretty informal (and kind of like AI). They really just wanted to know if I was going to be involved with the chapter. I helped with a number of activities in the Fall (Homecoming, etc) and then at the end of the semester they voted. I had visited the school during the previous spring so I already knew the President of the house.