What happens to perpetrators?

"I think a woman wearing a man's fraternity shirt is NOT right. If the woman is in a sorority, she (most likely) will understand what his letters mean to him and not try to "sport" them"

I agree with DELTABRAT! My man and I are both members of LGLOs and under no circumstance would I feel right about wearing his letters or vice-versa. I didn't earn his letters and I don't know their meaning. I feel very strongly about the use of symbols and I won't even write out another organization's name in symbol form. I write out the entire spelling. I would often see females wearing fraternity letters to class and I felt this was disrespectful.

[HER_STORY]

wow!!!!!! you checked your mom? i have often wondered about that.......i had a roomate and i remember her saying that her mom wears her para and the mom was not greek. but she did not feel comfortable asking her mom to remove the para because it was her mom and her mom had done so much for her etc.

[Corbin Dallas]

By "wearing his letters" do you mean anything with the fraternities letters on it, or his actual letters shirt. I know I have a Jersey with LCA on it, and I wouldn't dream of giving it to anyone except a new associate, but I let my girlfriend wear my t-shirts that have LCA on them, or my hat.

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Steve Corbin
Lambda Chi Alpha
Theta Kappa Zeta Chapter
Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech.

[12dn94dst]

Originally posted by Corbin Dallas:
By "wearing his letters" do you mean anything with the fraternities letters on it, or his actual letters shirt.

We're talking about anything with the fraternity's letters on it

[AXO Alum]

At our school, we could wear fraternity script shirts and hats, but nothing with the actual letters. When I say "script" I mean a shirt/hat with the organization spelled out...for instance, many of our sisters dated Pi Kappa Alpha's so they would wear shirts that said the name, but not PKA letters. We would also have mixers with other frats and soros so we would have tees made with our names on it and a design about the event. Also, we had some date-only events so we would have tees made that we could also buy for our man to wear (ex: Alpha Chi Omega's Annual Grab-A-Date party). Unless you were a little sister (they don't have these anymore) of a frat you would never wear their letters. I would have to agree that I wouldn't wear letters of a frat, but I think its okay when you have shirts made for parties and stuff.

[Taykimson]

Now something that is quite popular but you usually see it on really small children, is a child wearing a shirt saying My mother is an AKA (or other sorority). Naturally no one thinks the child is perping because of the statement on the shirt and age of the child.

I don't mean to side track this discussion but what do folks think of those shirts for children?

AlphaChiGirl, again not to side track but I want to add to your list of HBCUs. If anyone has a school to add or one you disagree with, if you don't mind please start another thread because as you can see the list is very long! Thanks!!

North Carolina A&T State University (my alma mater)
Tuskegee University (my husband’s alma mater)

Alabama A&M University, Alabama State University, Albany State University, Alcorn State University, Allen University, Arkansas Baptist College, Barber-Scotia College Benedict College, Bennett College, Bethune-Cookman College Bishop State Community College ,Bluefield State College, Bowie State University, Central State University, Cheyney University of Pennsylvania , Claflin College, Clark Atlanta University, Clinton Junior College, Coahoma Community College, Concordia College, Coppin State College, Delaware State University, Denmark Technical College, Dillard University, Edward Waters College, Elizabeth City State University, Fayetteville State University, Fisk University, Florida A&M University, Florida Memorial College, Fort Valley State College, Fredd State Technical College, Grambling State University, Hampton University, Harris-Stowe State College, Hinds Community College, Howard University, Huston-Tillotson College, Interdenominational Theological Center, J.F. Drake State Technical College, Jackson State University, Jarvis Christian College, Johnson C. Smith University, Kentucky State University Knoxville College, Lane College, Langston University , Lawson State Community College, LeMoyne-Owen College, Lewis College of Business Lincoln University, MO, Lincoln University(Pennsylvania), Livingstone College, Mary Holmes College, Meharry Medical College, Miles College, Mississippi Valley State University, Morehouse College , Morgan State University, Morris Brown College, Morris College, Norfolk State University, North Carolina Central University, Oakwood College, Paine College, Paul Quinn College, Philander Smith College, Prairie View A&M University, Rust College, Savannah State University, Selma University, Shaw University, Shorter College, South Carolina State University, Southern University A&M College ,
Southwestern Christian College, Spelman College, St. Augustine's College, St. Paul's College, St. Philip's College, Stillman College, Talladega College, Tennessee State University, Texas College,Texas Southern University,Tougaloo College, Trenholm State Technical College, University of Arkansas at Pine Bluff, University of Maryland Eastern Shore, University of the District of Columbia, University of the Virgin Islands, Virginia State University, Virginia Union University, Voorhees College, West Virginia State College, Wilberforce University, Wiley College, Winston-Salem State University, Xavier University of Louisiana

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Alpha Kappa Alpha
17-Alpha Phi-91


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[Gina_lynn]

I know what I'm about to say is petty, but I have seen it happen so here it is..

I have seen girls who were very small in t-shirts and hats and even bibs (which just shows how young they were) that say I'm a future Delta, AKA ect. (I usually see these shirts at events where the little girl's mother is wearing a sorority shirt also)A picture was taken and forgotten. When that girl gets college age, she chooses to affiliate with another sorority and the picture resurfaces.

I've also seen little girs get harrased for wearing "letters" in a very innocent way. For example, I was in a city where the local Delta chapter had a Betty Shabazz Academy (a program that many Delta Chapters do to help steer young girls, middle school age in the right direction). The members of the Academy were harrased for wearing the greek symbols on a t-shirt that in all likelyhood was given to them by the members of the Delta chapter for participating in the program. That's a bit overboard.

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If you can't raise conciousness, at least raise hell!--Rita Mae Brown

[AlphaChiGirl]

Originally posted by Gina_lynn:
I know what I'm about to say is petty, but I have seen it happen so here it is..

I've also seen little girs get harrased for wearing "letters" in a very innocent way. For example, I was in a city where the local Delta chapter had a Betty Shabazz Academy (a program that many Delta Chapters do to help steer young girls, middle school age in the right direction). The members of the Academy were harrased for wearing the greek symbols on a t-shirt that in all likelihood was given to them by the members of the Delta chapter for participating in the program. That's a bit overboard.

Gosh, the pettiness of some people. It's not as if the girls were trying to be Deltas...some people honestly need to get lives when it comes to this stuff. Harassing little girls your organization is BENEFITING is simply ridiculous.

Taykimson, it's quite alright--I was simply trying to give a list of schools with which most people on this board would be familiar. I'm always getting people who ask me if my school's an HBCU--getting it confused with Morris Brown College.

About the fraternity/sorority names on t-shirts publicizing the events...I always thought this was okay. Like, you didn't have to be a member of one of the groups to wear one of those.

[DELTABRAT]

Taykimson:

Set it out girl, as far as the names of the HBCU's.

I think Alpha Chi Girl just listed some of the more "popular" ones for those that didn't know

Anyway, about the baby shirt thing. I don't have a problem with it. I think it is relative though. For instance if the child is REAL young (like 1-4 or 5...it's *cute*) If the child is 13 or 14...hmmm...I don't think so. Addditionally, I think it depends on the gender (this may be obvious for most) but I have a son and I don't think he will be wearing a shirt that says "My mom is a Delta." Ya know. Additionally, most of the shirts I have seen with this usually say Delta (for my Sorority). Not Delta Sigma Thete of DST or the Greek symbols. That's kind of hard to get away with in your Sorority because the symbols are the letters and vice-versa.

Does the baby shirt thing bother you at all?
I don't mean just for AKA, but for any sorority.

I think they are cute if it is the "right" situation (like the one's named above.)

PEACE

[Taykimson]

DeltaBrat & AlphaChiGirl,

I wasn't trying to "show you up" with the list of HBCUs. I thought it was pretty impressive and wanted to share. Besides I don't know if you caught the singling out of 2 HBCUs in particular .

Now to the subject at hand. The My Mother is an AKA shirts are cute on little ones, the smaller the child, the cuter it is. The only reason I will not allow my daughters to wear them when they are older is so they will not have to deal with "Oh you think you have it easy because you are a legacy." Legacy is a topic for another thread

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Alpha Kappa Alpha
17-Alpha Phi-91


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[HER_STORY]

i remember when i was a student at tuskegee, we had a lot of foreign students that did not know any thing frats and sororities or did not really have a good command of the language. anyway there was this guy that bought a sorority shirt and was wearing it. some of the members were like ok, he doesn't know better. but one member got up in his face and told him to take it off. then when he refused she was trying to coax him to cut the shield off. her sisters had to literally drag her away. she was making a complete fool of her self. is it really that deep?

[Eli]

I think its wrong to harass people- however a the same time, the ONLY people that should wear Greek letters are members of that organization. (They must EARN the right to wear letters). Otherwise, you might as well get rid of a pledge period- ya know, we can be the type where people buy their way into a fraternity!

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[blu_theatrics]

I know of one instance were a bruh was driving down the street and saw a homeless man with one of his orgs t-shirts on. He stop and went to talk to the man, acttually thinking he might be a bruh and wanting to help in some way, but anyhow when he found it wasn't a bruh he decided to go to the store around the corner and by the man a nice outfit. (It was the middle of the summer and he had on cut off heavy pants...obviously he was vey hot) and he gave the man the outfit and the man agreed to give him the t-shirt....sort of an even trade. i though that that was very nice. Not only did he spend time talking to this man even whenm he wasn't a bruh, but he also brough him a far better outfit than the one he had on for the t-shirt.

I mean a lesser person wouyld have went and just demanded the shirt.

[Gina_lynn]

How do you all feel about Pan T-shirts that list every organization on them? We had an incident where the Pan wanted to get shirts made for all of the members (in White Gold and Green) and some Organization's represenitives didn't want to do it either because the letters would have been on the back of the shirt (some orgainzations have rules about that) and they would be wearing someone elses letters, and someone else would have been wearing theirs. I'm sorta torn on that one.

As far as the young man getting the man a new outfit in exchange for the t-shirt.. that's the image I have of an Omega Man!!!

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If you can't raise conciousness, at least raise hell!--Rita Mae Brown

[Eli]

I think Pan Tshirts are okay, only if you are a Greek and a member of one of those organizations on the shirt.

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