ASC is national (zntke711) everyone

[Dfran]

Just a sample. Stuff we live with every day. Things that make you go hmmm.

LATEST BOMBINGS SUMMARY
(from the "Latest Bombings" section on http://www.intelcenter.com)


- On 12 Apr., an explosive device detonated outside the Caracas
Teleport building in Caracas, Venezuela, which was used for the peace
talks between the Venezuelan Government and the opposition party
earlier in the day. The building was damaged but their were no
reported injuries. A Colombian man is a suspect in the attack and two
other attacks in Caracas.

- At 1620 local time on 11 Apr., an explosive device detonated in a
block of flats in the western part of Moscow, Russia.

- On 11 Apr., an explosive device detonated in Mora Bachai in the
Surankote sub-division of Punch district. Three farmers were injured.

- On 10 Apr., a suicide bomber detonated their explosives at a US
Marine checkpoint in the Saddam City suburb of Baghdad, Iraq. One
Marine was killed and three injured.

- On 9 Apr., an explosive device detonated when a child touched it in
a high school in Jaba, a village near Jenin in the West Bank. Fifteen
students were injured.

- At 1100 local time on 8 Apr., an explosive device detonated in an
area known as Djebel Labiod near Bir El Ater, Algeria. Six members of
the security forces were injured.

- At 0300 local time on 8 Apr., an explosive device detonated on the
gas pipeline in Mauza Bhutewahn in the Saddar area of Tehsil
Sadiqabad in Pakistan. Two people were injured.

- On 7 Apr., an explosive device detonated in a car carrying police
officers near the press ministry in Grozny, Chechnya. Five policemen
were killed.

- On 7 Apr., an explosive device detonated after an army Ural lorry
had already passed in Chechnya. There were no injuries.

- On 6 Apr., an explosive device detonated in the underpass near the
Prime Ministry in Ankara, Turkey. There were no injuries.

- On 6 Apr., an explosive device detonated in Assembly Park in
Ankara, Turkey. There were no injuries.

- At 1614 local time on 5 Apr., an explosive device detonated at a Mc
Donald's restaurant in the el-Dourah district in Beirut, Lebanon.
Three people were injured.

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by Dfran
In fact, all the words in our motto are Greek in origin. Plato coined the term "Republic"; Aegis is the shield of Zeus, and Cryptos is Greek for "Hidden" [secreted].

I'm afraid that's not quite accurate, DFran. "Republic" is an English word, derived from Latin (res publica) through Middle French. Plato did indeed write a work the translated English title of which is "Republic." But the word Plato used (and perhaps coined) was Politeia,which really would translate as "Constitution."

And in Greek mythology, the aegis -- first associated with Zeus and later with Athena -- was described either as a thundercloud or the skin of the divine goat Ameltheia. It was usually depicted as a cloak, though it could be used as a shield, and Athena wore it upon her breastplate.

FWIW.

[Dfran]

Originally posted by MysticCat81
I'm afraid that's not quite accurate, DFran. "Republic" is an English word, derived from Latin (res publica) through Middle French. Plato did indeed write a work the translated English title of which is "Republic." But the word Plato used (and perhaps coined) was Politeia,which really would translate as "Constitution."

And in Greek mythology, the aegis -- first associated with Zeus and later with Athena -- was described either as a thundercloud or the skin of the divine goat Ameltheia. It was usually depicted as a cloak, though it could be used as a shield, and Athena wore it upon her breastplate.

FWIW.

That's correct. It is in the spirit of the derivation. What you point out about aegis being a cloak is very astute, something we're going to have our pledges discover for themselves.

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by Dfran
What you point out about aegis being a cloak is very astute, something we're going to have our pledges discover for themselves.

I thought it seemed apt for the "cloak and dagger" GLO.

[Dfran]

I have a question foy you, since you're savy on this stuff. Could you provide me with a resource for developing policy. Specificlly, I'm interested in how to establish the right to exclusion. I imagine that 'by invitation only' is one way, but that's obviously not a working solution for ASC, we need to generate interest among students and faculty who qualify for membership, initially, and then branch out into recruiting among individuals who are allready IS and NS professionals. That being an 'off campus' internal activity. Just not too sure how the average GLO avoids risk from disgruntled individuals who believe they should not have been excluded from membership.

Originally posted by MysticCat81
Dfran, just a heads up. This is a generalization, but Title IX prohibits educational institutions from discriminating on the basis of sex or allowing discrimination on the basis of sex. Failure to abide by this prohibition puts the educational institution in jeopardy of losing federal funds, including financial aid for students. An exception is made for student organizations that are social in nature.

What this means for GLOs is that Title IX requires professional fraternities to be co-ed if they want to have college or university recognition. The reasoning is that, because the GLO has the purpose of furthering the professional development of its members, that opportunity must be available to males and females alike. Unless an educational institution is going to be completely free of federal aid, the only single-sex GLOs that it can allow are social GLOs. And it is the United Stated Department of Education, not the GLO itself, that makes the call whether the group is "social" or "professional" for the purposes of Title IX.

You may have already thought through this, but I thought I'd throw the idea out to you. Good luck with ASC!!

[James]

MysticCat81, are you sure that this is a valid application of Title IX?

I didn't believe a proffessional GLO would come under Title IX unless it gets specific funding from the federal government.

ITs been a while since I read it.

The whole recognition idea is a wierd one on a college campus. Generally you have students that join, or are recruited into, an organization that is independant of the institution. The organization then applies for recognition so that they can use certain college resources.

I don't see where Title IX enters in exactly.

DFran, are you trying to exclude women from your Fraternity?


Edited to add this link http://www.profraternity.org/history.html

And to acknowledge that MysticCat81 is correct. Thanks for pointing that out lol. I didn't know that.

[MysticCat]

DFran (and James, too) --

Title IX (enacted in 1972) states that "[n]o person in the United States shall be subjected to discrimination under any educational program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance." The US Department of Education, to which Congress gave the authority to define and enforce this directive, has issued regulations interpreting this prohibition as prohibiting the distribution of any federal funds to any educational institution that shelters a single-sex organization.

Title IX does make a few exceptions, including "social fraternities and social sororities" that draw their membership primarily from the student population of the educational institution. Thus, a fraternity or sorority that is sheltered by an educational institution may remain single-sex if the Dept of Education determines that it is a social fraternity or sorority. For many GLOs, (including NIC, NPC and NPHC orgs) such status is obvious. For other orgs, it is not so obvious. Phi Mu Alpha requested and received a ruling from DOE in the '80s that we are a social, not professional, fraternity.

The reason that social GLOs are exempted and professional GLOs are not is that professional GLOs exist to assist in the professional development (and networking) of their members. Allowing such an org to remain single-sex would catagorically deny the other sex access to such professional development and contacts.

DFran, my best advice is seek out the assistance of a lawyer who knows something about education law in general and Title IX in particular. You're in a great position, because you are just now founding this organization and are setting its guiding principles. You can make it what you want it to be. Good luck.

[CutiePie2000]

Originally posted by Dfran
The only reason ASC is currently listed on greekpages as a 'local' fraternity is that we do not yet fit their definition of 'international' even though international affiliations are inherent in our founding. Our membership, however, is currently national.

This looks like a forum that may interest you:
"Up & Coming National GLOs
This area is for discussion of issues affecting GLOs which are larger than a local, yet are still growing into a national GLO."
http://www.greekchat.net/gcforums/fo...s=&forumid=186

[James]

Thank you MysticCat81

[James]

Dfran. I just want to be clear on something.

Are you in the process of creating an organization that will provide community and proffessional support for Natonal Security career/studies people . . . .

But

At the same time you want to exclude women even if they are in that career/study field?

If so, will you answer why?

[Dfran]

The answer is at least as complicated as the question. ASC is founded on three guiding principals: Solidarity, Individuality, and Professionalism. Solidarity regards the difference between "brotherhood," "brotherly love," "fraternity," and "unity." The short definition of the deeper meaning of this principal is that brotherhood implies brotherly love, which requires a relationship beyond fraternity, but both can be build on the firm foundation of solidarity.

The cement of solidarity in our organization is individuality. This may seem like a contradiction in terms, however what it reflects is our belief that the prestige of the fraternity is derivitive of the contribution and commitment of the individual brother - toward the whole: the whole of not only the fraternity, but the society in which the brother lives, as well as the community in which the fraternity is focused.

Professionalism is the most significant principal regarding your question. Professionalism is defined as decorum in all matters fraternal, social, and beyond, into the Greek community at large, society, and the IS and NS communities both academic and professional.

Most of us are married; most members of this brotherhood will be married men, or men in a committed relationship: a statistical reality of our demographic. That said, the vast majority of men, and women, in this demographic would not support their partner being a part of a co-ed organization that is mainly social, fraternal, and only thirdly professional. Especially given its web centric synergy.

It is our sincere desire that a sorority will model our success, and thereby bring the power of sisterhood to bear toward like-minded and like spirited objectives in support of the cyber and non-residential academic and professional communities. Not necessarily focused on IS and NS, although that would be super, but our focus is not anything special in and of itself - the higher purpose resides in bringing the Greek experience to non-traditional students and professionals in communities that are largely populated by individuals whose academic and professional careers have historically lacked the opportunity.

We aim to bridge that gap as a brotherhood, and hope that others follow.

Originally posted by James
Dfran. I just want to be clear on something.

Are you in the process of creating an organization that will provide community and proffessional support for Natonal Security career/studies people . . . .

But

At the same time you want to exclude women even if they are in that career/study field?

If so, will you answer why?