Where'd the picture go?

[carnation]

SigmaChiGuy, I seem to recall you jumping all over VSUPhiMu for posting a link to secrets and telling her that she shouldn't hurt our organizations like that. What 's the difference here?

[MoxieGrrl]

Why are people from headquarters scanning GC boards to find questionable posts? If they like to come here, chat, post, read, whatever...cool.... But I didn't think that being in a sorority was having "Big Sister" watching, making sure one did not defile Her name.

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by MoxieGrrl
Why are people from headquarters scanning GC boards to find questionable posts? If they like to come here, chat, post, read, whatever...cool.... But I didn't think that being in a sorority was having "Big Sister" watching, making sure one did not defile Her name.

There was actually an interesting incident this past fall where a member of Kappa Kappa Gamma was talked to by a person from her sorority HQ about some of her posts on this board, and reminded that as she's representing KKG letters at all times and that includes online.

[sororitygirl2]

I agree that we need to be good representations of our organizations, but can't we have a little fun once in awhile?!

And don't lecture me... I've heard it all before and I've preached it myself... I just learned to loosen up a little after awhile (but still not enough, if you ask some people).

Originally posted by sugar and spice
There was actually an interesting incident this past fall where a member of Kappa Kappa Gamma was talked to by a person from her sorority HQ about some of her posts on this board, and reminded that as she's representing KKG letters at all times and that includes online.

Not only that, but about two years ago a fraternity member was "silenced" by his HQ because of an online altercation between he and a bunch of troublemaker GCers. Truthfully, he spoke out, but his HQ had a problem with it. So he stayed quiet for a while...and he still is because I rarely see him post anymore. I personally don't think he was out of line, but that was my first indication that the authorities are lurking...

You can look at it as being "Big Brother" or "Big Sister", but brothers and sisters looking out for you in real life is how it is here too on GC. If I was out of line in my letters at a chapter event, I'd be sure to get a shoulder tap, no doubt about it. You earn your letters and you should respect your letters. That's where the whole idea of being a good representative of your GLO comes about.

[OrigamiTulip]

Originally posted by sugar and spice
But, as stated before, we have hazing posts that mention names of specific groups all the time -- does that constitute "dragging somebody's name through the mud?" If XYZ headquarters contacted the moderators of this board and said, "Please remove the post about XYZ hazing in the Risk Management forum; we don't appreciate the name of our organization being degraded like that," would you, if you knew full well that the hazing act in question really happened and that there was information all over the internet pertaining to the hazing act?

I definitely agree that the pictures should have been deleted. I don't think any of us are arguing with that. It's just that this is something that happened and that can't be denied, the pictures are all over the internet, and there are even discussions about that very picture on this board (not mentioning the chapter name, fortunately, but it does mention the organization name). I don't see why it shouldn't be discussed here -- I don't see a difference between that and the hazing posts.

It's already been discussed and there are threads on the subject still on the board. No need for a new thread.

[Tom Earp]

Sandy please chill!!!!

SigmaChiguy, You should also chill!!!

If a Moderator finds something offensive, it is normally put on the Mod Thread and is then judged to be or not to be, that is the question offensive!

If so judged, deep sixed! Hopefully this may answer any further questions! Si ?

While some are in good fun, and a Mod does delete or lock, it has been brought back! A lot depends on the nature of the thread!

You are a guest as we all are no matter what your status is on site. It is a site to help Greeks and have fun, so take it at that if you would!

Tom, I don't think you of all people should be telling people to "chill".

If you have a problem with what I post, please reply back calmly. You can't expect me to take you seriously with this "chill" BS.

Till then, this is my last reply to you regarding this situation.

Thanks, and drive through. Back to your regularly scheduled discussion, folks.

[KSigkid]

For the most part, I think this has been one of the better discussions on this site...at least people are getting their points across in a reasonable matter.

Again, just my opinion...

[justamom]

For the most part, I think this has been one of the better discussions on this site...at least people are getting their points across in a reasonable matter. Ditto KSigkid!

I would just like to add that it is really frustrating to read references to certain subjects and end up wondering "What the..." because they have been deleted. Plus, the squeaky hinge manner of "pick and choose" deletion has at times been obvious. Not pointing fingers, not even arguing with the thought process. It's just that I have NEVER commented on this subject even though I have noticed it's rather subjective. AND the appropriateness of certain posts seems to be judged on different merits...often reflecting personal feelings rather than overall content.

...I also get slightly irritated when people don't like the way a discussion is going and they say things like this has already been discussed or, there is another thread about this... You don't say that in real life, it kills communication. I've seen DOZENS of threads that start out with one subject and turn totally into something quite different. Yet, people being reactive throw out that comment (in what seems to me) as a way of silencing the discussion. If enough people want to take a thread in a different direction, isn't that OK? Are we to be so structured we must inhibit discussion?

TOM-You are a guest as we all are no matter what your status is on site. It is a site to help Greeks and have fun, so take it at that if you would! And that's the bottom line!

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by justamom

...I also get slightly irritated when people don't like the way a discussion is going and they say things like this has already been discussed or, there is another thread about this... You don't say that in real life, it kills communication. I've seen DOZENS of threads that start out with one subject and turn totally into something quite different. Yet, people being reactive throw out that comment (in what seems to me) as a way of silencing the discussion. If enough people want to take a thread in a different direction, isn't that OK? Are we to be so structured we must inhibit discussion?

Sometimes those threads get outa hand... but I can't stand more than someone always posting about "there's another thread on this"... and it's always pretty much the same people saying that.

Much love to my Lj Bia...

[damasa]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Sometimes those threads get outa hand... but I can't stand more than someone always posting about "there's another thread on this"... and it's always pretty much the same people saying that.

Much love to my Lj Bia...

To be honest, I haven't really seen any thread get outta hand for quite some time lately.

I understand your point on the "there's another thread on this" but take it from those people that have been on hear for years. Hell, there was one time when a girl posted in greek life asking about a certain sorority and how they were on everyone's campus. Well, there was almost the same damn thread like two threads down from that when she started it. It was like she didn't even bother to search or check or anything. SO all of a sudden there were two threads about the SAME exact thing, almost with the same exact title.....in the same exact area "within a few threads of eachother."

[PM_Mama00]

Oh yeah I totally got you on that one. That's what I was talking about getting out of hand. Those threads are just plain ridiculous. I was more or less talkign about the threads where like they'll be talking about most unusual sex place, and then a few months later there's another thread. Who cares if there's already a thread? It's way back in GC history now... spark up a new one!

Back on this whole pic business... I saw it a while ago. And I can tell you that if another Phi Mu chapter had a picture like that on the Internet somewhere, I'd be hella pissed, and you better believe that if HQ or Kathy got a hold of it, they'd be gone in a second. No need to make Mary, Mary and Martha roll in their coffins.

[KSigkid]

Originally posted by justamom
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I would just like to add that it is really frustrating to read references to certain subjects and end up wondering "What the..." because they have been deleted. Plus, the squeaky hinge manner of "pick and choose" deletion has at times been obvious. Not pointing fingers, not even arguing with the thought process. It's just that I have NEVER commented on this subject even though I have noticed it's rather subjective. AND the appropriateness of certain posts seems to be judged on different merits...often reflecting personal feelings rather than overall content.

This is one of the main things that irritates me as well - if there's discussion going on about a thread, active discussion and (mostly) thoughtful discussion, I don't see what the deal is. In my opinion, what I see is some people making snap judgements on threads; I don't see where the line is drawn between threads being deleted and threads being kept.

I too have kept my mouth shut about this - but you're right, the judgements on threads don't always make sense to me....just my thoughts.

Collin

[greeklawgirl]

Just to clarify...*I* was the first person on the thread in question to request that the picture and the link be removed. I never requested that the thread be locked. I think its very important to discuss these issues...I just didn't think that the pictures needed to be posted here.