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Old 02-12-2003, 02:09 AM
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Michelle,

I have to disagree. Isn't it true that the boy in uestion has absolutely no honorable committment to anyone in this scenario? I mean, he isn't the one in a committed relationship.

He isn't doing anything wrong if he "taps that ass." So why shouldn't he?

He isn't married. He can do what he wants. She's the evil one for playing her hubby out like a fool. Isn't she?

And why should he feel bad if he is the last person to sleep with her before he dies? It has nothing to do with morality.
Well, he definitely wouldn't be on the same level of immorality as the wife would be if he went for it . . . but there still would be something bad about his behavior, in my opinion. If he knows that she has a husband and is still helping her cheat on her husband, that's not exactly "honorable." There's just something questionable about sleeping with another man's wife, even if you're not married yourself.

But then, most questions of morality are pretty much subjective when you get right down to it.
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Old 02-12-2003, 01:06 PM
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It's my understanding that both parties involved would be guilty of adultery if they slept together, NOT just the married woman. It would be one thing if the guy didn't know she was married, but since he does, it would be totally immoral for him to sleep with her.

And yes, I do believe that the circumstances of their relationship are wrong, even if they are not having sex or even kissing. The fact that she's lying to her husband and hiding things from him is wrong in and of itself. Your friend, however, hasn't technically done anything wrong... yet.

I think your friend would be wise to cut ties with this chick, she's obviously got some issues.
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Old 02-12-2003, 06:57 PM
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SSS1365 You sure said it a LOT nicer than I will!!!!

If they do ANY kind of drug together, I would bet my bottom dollar they will have sex.

So, if America got all upset over Jimmy Carter "lusting in his heart", what perception do you think people have of THIS situation???

The girl is a piece of TRASH (IMO). James, you can think what you want and advise how you want, but that does NOT change the fact that marriage is a binding and BLESSED union. To forsake ALL OTHERS...A VOW for heaven's sake!!!

I feel so damn sorry for the marine. If your friend were REALLY an honorable man, he would walk away and HONOR the marriage contract between the two. Otherwise...he's no better than she is!!! ...and I hope they BOTH get what they deserve! Perhaps he wants to be named in court!

I take marriage seriously!
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Old 02-12-2003, 07:20 PM
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I agree with JAM

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SSS1365 You sure said it a LOT nicer than I will!!!!

If they do ANY kind of drug together, I would bet my bottom dollar they will have sex.

So, if America got all upset over Jimmy Carter "lusting in his heart", what perception do you think people have of THIS situation???

The girl is a piece of TRASH (IMO). James, you can think what you want and advise how you want, but that does NOT change the fact that marriage is a binding and BLESSED union. To forsake ALL OTHERS...A VOW for heaven's sake!!!

I feel so damn sorry for the marine. If your friend were REALLY an honorable man, he would walk away and HONOR the marriage contract between the two. Otherwise...he's no better than she is!!! ...and I hope they BOTH get what they deserve! Perhaps he wants to be named in court!

I take marriage seriously!
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Old 02-12-2003, 07:29 PM
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SSS1365 You sure said it a LOT nicer than I will!!!!

If they do ANY kind of drug together, I would bet my bottom dollar they will have sex.

So, if America got all upset over Jimmy Carter "lusting in his heart", what perception do you think people have of THIS situation???

The girl is a piece of TRASH (IMO). James, you can think what you want and advise how you want, but that does NOT change the fact that marriage is a binding and BLESSED union. To forsake ALL OTHERS...A VOW for heaven's sake!!!

I feel so damn sorry for the marine. If your friend were REALLY an honorable man, he would walk away and HONOR the marriage contract between the two. Otherwise...he's no better than she is!!! ...and I hope they BOTH get what they deserve! Perhaps he wants to be named in court!

I take marriage seriously!
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Old 02-12-2003, 08:32 PM
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Wow...all I can say is that I'm glad my boyfriend does not have James' mindset...he's a real man
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Old 02-12-2003, 08:51 PM
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SSS1365

that does NOT change the fact that marriage is a binding and BLESSED union. To forsake ALL OTHERS...A VOW for heaven's sake!!!



If that is true, then why do so many people get divorced so frequently? What is the stat up to now, 7 out of 10 marriages end in divorce?



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I take marriage seriously!

You may, but obviously most of the people out there don't take it seriously or consider it binding!
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Old 02-12-2003, 10:23 PM
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Blair and justamom- you said it!!!

Wow, James I am really impressed with the lack of morality that you have! Go find yourself some values!
He would be crossing an ethical line if he knowingly and willingly slept with a married woman, no matter her decision. It takes two to tango, and both parties would be at fault for decit and adultry. He would not, in my opinion, be "less at fault" either-- he just doesn't have to face the consequences of a broken marriage. You also ask to whom this guy has a commitment. I'd say he has one to himself. How can you really think yourself a good person if you decide not to take yourself out of a situation where you will break up a marriage????? You could reason that they shouldn't be together, but if that is the case, she must decide based on her relationship with her husband itself, not by comparison with another realtionship, that divorce is what she wants.

Marriages end in divorce a lot, for all sorts of reasons, but does that make a promise or a commitment any less important? No.
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Old 02-12-2003, 10:46 PM
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Ya know, one of my problems is that I'm usually way too nice. Justamom more accurately said what I was thinking!
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Old 02-12-2003, 10:59 PM
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I'm gonna have to agree with JAM and the others on this one.

Yeah, your bud has no committment to anyone in this situation, but in a way he's encouraging her to commit adultery.

Personally, i'm not into the dope scene, but i think for them to be smoking out together is again, just asking for trouble.

I know that i would hate to be the guy who broke up a marriage, especially a marriage involving someone who fights for this country. I think your boy needs to bow out.

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Old 02-12-2003, 11:06 PM
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Eclipse... Roll = X.

Anyway, on the situation... I think the friend should probably avoid this girl. He can tell her to give him a call after her marriage ends (which it inevitably will, based on this saga).

I mean, sure, he could hit it with this girl, maybe even without guilt, but it is wrong by society's standards. And it will only bring drama...

There are plenty of hot single girls out there. I'm sure he can find plenty that he has things in common with.

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Old 02-13-2003, 04:22 AM
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Eclipse... Roll = X.

Anyway, on the situation... I think the friend should probably avoid this girl. He can tell her to give him a call after her marriage ends (which it inevitably will, based on this saga).

I mean, sure, he could hit it with this girl, maybe even without guilt, but it is wrong by society's standards. And it will only bring drama...

There are plenty of hot single girls out there. I'm sure he can find plenty that he has things in common with.


Don't get me wrong, every time he goes out with us he has other pu$$y lined up.......it's just I think he actually likes hanging out with this chick. Thats kinda weird, it totally goes against my theory that no guy wants to just hang out with a chick and expect nothing out of it.

If that were my wife, I'd probably break every bone in the guys body and then toss my wife out on her a$$. If we had any kids I'd make sure she didn't get them.

The way I look at it, if a b!tch is good enough for me to marry, I better be good enough for her not to cheat on. Plain and simple.

However, I do know how hard it is to turn down a good piece of a$$ because of a commitment already in place.
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Old 02-13-2003, 10:46 AM
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Um, am I the only person that's a little annoyed by certain peoples' referral to women as "bitches" in this thread?
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Old 02-13-2003, 01:15 PM
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If that is true, then why do so many people get divorced so frequently? What is the stat up to now, 7 out of 10 marriages end in divorce?
Actually it's still at about 5 out of 10 . . . the divorce rate has actually gone down since the 1970s and has been holding steady at about 50% for about ten years (?) now I think.
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Old 02-13-2003, 01:40 PM
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Um, am I the only person that's a little annoyed by certain peoples' referral to women as "bitches" in this thread?
Second that motion...!
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