Fiesta Bowl!!!!

[ZTAMich]

I still love me some Ken Dorsey What a looker...
Our Prov. Pres went to Miami, so I'm sure there's a tear or two being shed up in the Lehigh Valley by her.

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by ZTAMiami
Don't forget to watch tonight and see the Hurricanes beat the crap out of the Buckeyes!!!!

Um, let's see, where did I put that gourmet crow?

Seriously, I'm not a huge Ohio State fan, but did grow up in Columbus. And my son goes to Oklahoma, so it's been a pretty productive season.

One thing I've learned over 35 years of televising football games from high school through the NFL is never to say than anyone is going to beat the crap out of anyone. The ball bounces in mysterious ways on any give day.

As for calls, there were bad ones going both directions. It's part of the game.

[DigitalAngel126]

HORSESHIT!!! That's all I can say...That is THE most horrendous call EVER... And yes, bad calls do happen, but NOT during bowl games...HORSESHIT!!!!!




My thoughts and prayers go out to McGahee, I've $#@!*&ed up my knee before...Poor guy, that was a horrid display of hyperextension..Porr guy, hope it doesn't dash his NFL dreams.

[DeltAlum]

Well, that was quick.

I admire your eloquence.

Here's reality. Bad calls happen in the SuperBowl. And in every other game.

I was going to edit this to my above, but will do it here instead. That was one of the best football games I've ever seen. And I've seen a lot of them.

That opinion would not be different had Miami prevailed. It was amazing.

Originally posted by ZTAMich
I still love me some Ken Dorsey What a looker...
Our Prov. Pres went to Miami, so I'm sure there's a tear or two being shed up in the Lehigh Valley by her.

Yes, that Ken Dorsey is a hottie.

Too bad his GF looks like a man.

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by OohTeenyWahine
Too bad his GF looks like a man.

OUCH!

Just wanted to add that I also hope McGahee's injury doesn't affect his NFL prospects. He had a great game.

I was also pretty impressed with Kellen Windslow, Jr.

[UDZETA]

Originally posted by UDZETA
Or see the buckeyes beat the crap out of the hurricanes!!!!!

OSU wins!!! I'm so proud of my state!!!!

[Thrillhouse]

Dorsey not hitting that TE on 2nd down will be remembered for quite some time in Miami also.

[Blaire]

I honestly have to say that both teams played their hearts out...way to go Buckeyes!!! Good effort, Canes! Ps...I agree with whomever said it...one of the best games I've ever seen!

[DeltAlum]

Following is a quote from Coach Coker and an explaination from the Field Judge who made the questionable call:

"Asked about the call on Miami corner Glenn Sharpe, who was defending two-way Buckeyes player Chris Gamble, Hurricanes coach Larry Coker said he didn't see the flag thrown.

"I don't know," he said. "I know the call was made, and that's what we have to deal with.

"We obviously had to adjust and go on to the next play. Obviously a fourth-and-long, that was a huge, huge play in the game. You hate for an official to have to make that call. You would like for it to be a legitimate call."

But irate 'Canes fans thought it was anything but legitimate. The flag was thrown by field judge Terry Porter, of the Big 12 Conference officiating crew.

Porter explained his call like this: "I saw the guy holding the guy prior to the ball being put in the air. He was still holding him, pulling him down while the ball was in the air. I gave the signal for holding. Then I realized it should be pass interference because the ball was in the air." (Bold type is mine)

Asked why he made the call late, he answered, "I replayed it in my mind. I wanted to make double-sure it was the right call."

Here are my thoughts, for what they,re worth, and the word "replay" looms large in my consideration. First, as many of you know, a large part of my career over the past thirty-five years was directing live sports events from local TV stations to NFL games on NBC Sports -- so I speak from some degree expertise on the following:

I think that the ABC production crew really blew the call. When the first ground level end zone replay came up, I thought that the official made a questionable call. When the second one was played, I said to my wife, "Wait a minute, that wasn't what he called -- the foul was at the beginning of the replay, not the end." I think, and the quote from Field Judge Porter above would seem to confirm my feeling, that the call was holding/defensive interference earlier in the play. Unfortunately, the TV replays all concentrated on the very end of the play. That's always the natural assumption, and in the split second world of the live TV truck, sometimes errors are made.

Remember that interference can happen anytime the ball is in the air. Holding can happen anytime. It appeared to me that as the replay(s) began, the defender was clearly holding/interfering with the receiver.

I sure wish I had recorded the game so I could go back and look again.

Just an educated observation for whatever it's worth.

(this bold type added 7-17-03 in response to new thread)

[DeltAlum]

Here is a column from "The Rocky Mountain News" on 1/4/02. Sometimes I don't agree with this guy, but I think his comment (as I mentioned in an earlier post about this being one of the best college football games ever are absolutley right on...

Lincicome: All BCS games will be compared to this
January 4, 2003

TEMPE, Ariz. - Game of the century, man. This century, the last one and the next one, too.

No college championship game, so-called or BCS certified, can match this one - not for final drama, not for raw nerve and rare delight, not for failings and flaws as well as special feats.

However college football decides to sort itself out in the future, this is the finish to measure by, double overtime, seat-squirming, breath- holding, unambiguous, last moment suspense.

The numbers will forever be Ohio State 31, Miami 24, much of that coming with no time on the clock, in that overtime twilight that only college football allows. And that Miami can make the case that it was robbed by a field judge's misjudgment, adds yet more texture to the final mix.

"That's what a national championship football game should look like, double overtime," Ohio State coach Jim Tressel said.

Whatever might happen in the next BCS, they will be pushed to do better than what happened on a desert night in Arizona, a game forever to be stored in clarity and wonder, a game forever defined by fourth-down heroics, all standards for time past and time to come.

"That was the best football game I've ever seen," said Miami defensive tackle Matt Walters, who had an inside view.

No argument here. None is likely ever to come from across a nation that finally found a football game on each side of the halftime show.

The fifth BCS outing got it right, raising the bar to the exaggeration that fuels it, and it took two teams of great tradition and reputation to do: It took a Miami team unbeaten to beat itself, an Ohio State team to find its nerve and the help of field judge Terry Porter on a play that sent Miami dancing onto the field with what it believed was its sixth national title.

The play that will linger most for both sides is not Maurice Clarett's winning touchdown or Ken Dorsey's final futile fourth down fling of the football that clattered without reward into the end zone: The play will be a fourth down pass clanking off Ohio State's Chris Gamble just before Miami defender Glenn Sharpe wrapped his arms around him, perfectly legal, perfectly played. Game over.

An eternity of seconds later, Porter tossed his yellow denial onto the field, giving Ohio State all the life it would need, the worst call since Pig Sooey. The happy and rejoicing Hurricanes were ushered back off the field, rather like the U.S. basketballers against Russia in Munich.

"I didn't see the call," said Miami coach Larry Coker, who lost his first game as a head coach. "The call was made, that's what you deal with. You would like it to be a legitimate call."

This one will be argued and reargued for that play, others will argue the play that took Miami's Willis McGahee out of the game, any of the five Miami turnovers, three by Dorsey, and two of which gave Ohio State only 31 yards to get 14 points.

"They didn't beat us, we beat ourselves," Miami's Kellen Winslow Jr said.

If this is the kind of bitterness that settles upon the loser of a national title game, it is just another reason to abandon this whole BCS formula, with its rankings and quartiles and rotating big-bowl carnival.

College football clearly is copying the Super Bowl formula; setting the final game apart from the traditional bowls, already tardy on New Year's Day, encouraging even the college players to preen and pose or become louts in search of attention.

Bowl games should be rewards for a season of success, not life defining or character changing ordeals. The bigger the end of things gets, the less vital are the beginnings.

None of the 27 other sanctioned bowl games were sell-outs, including the Rose Bowl. Attention is paid only by a team's local media. Once-pedigreed affairs such as the Orange or Cotton bowls are now merely excuses to have a New Year's parade. Ratings are down, sponsorships last only as long the marketing manager keeps his job.

Would a more inclusive playoff change any of this? College football not only has to decide if it wants a true football tournament, with eight or even 16 teams, but how to keep the ever-more pointless bowls from vanishing altogether.

So far, the BCS has done what it was designed to do, give ABC-TV the last game of the season between the Nos. 1 and 2 college football teams.

There is much more money to be made by college football. Old allegiances will give way eventually to a true tournament and the college football season will fade into insignificance, just as every other season in every other sport has.

But none will top this.

Personal Note: You've seen in the post before this one, that I think "the call" might have been correct. It's important to remember that the reporters and columnists all see the same replays in the press box that we see at home. No more, no less. And I think the replay was cued to the wrong spot. Whatever. It's over.

I do agree with one thing -- What a great game!

[Rio_Kohitsuji]

Yeah, that might have been a bad call against Miami...but hey..Ohio was getting crap calls on them all throughout the game. Deal with it. Karma is a bitch *nods* But hey, the game was awesome anyway.

The odd thing is that half of my town lost their electricity, so people were clammoring for a place to watch the game...I had about 10 extra people show up around midnight...talk about loyalty..

[SATX*APhi]

I have a friend who lives in Ohio and ever since I can remember, she has always told me about the buckeyes. This morning I woke up to an IM from her asking if I'd seen the game. I didn't even know it was on, but I'm glad they whooped butt!

[Kevin]

Originally posted by zntke711
Buckeyes win!! bet the Miami fans will complain about that call, but bad calls happen. It just sucks when it's agaisnt your team.

Maybe that call was bad... But the lack of holding calls on Miami was amazing! Every time I looked a Miami player had a OSU player by the jerzee.. I really was happy seeing either team lose that one... but the dirty football and the snotty attitude of the Miami players had me cheering for OSU.

Miami was a 13 point favorite folks. If they had taken care of business it wouldn't have come down to that call in the end zone.

Hell, had Dorsey not had 3 straight turnovers it might not have come down to that. In football, if you are the underdog, you hope to stay close until the end and hope for a break like the one that the Buckeyes got. I don't feel sorry for Miami at all. They came out overconfidant and got shocked.

Kitso
KS 361