UF-- editorial on recent issues - Page 2

DeltAlum · #16 11-15-2002, 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
A great explanation for why we have "bad press"...

Here's how the news works (as explained to me by a news station consultant)

Imagine you have a car and one of the tires goes flat... What is the story? The 3 wheels working just fine? Or the one that is flat?

Having never been a great fan of "News Doctors," but with due respect for Messrs Magid, McHugh and Hoffman (among others), that's pretty darn good.

ROWDYsister · #17 11-15-2002, 06:26 AM

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Originally posted by kdonline

All these fraternities screwed up again -- in just a year's time!? What's up with that!?

It's been a rough year. One after the other.

shadokat · #18 11-15-2002, 10:58 AM

I clicked on the link and it doesn't work anymore...maybe they took the story down already?

Kevin · #19 11-15-2002, 11:01 AM

As I recall EVERY year lately has been a rough year. It's just now that we're really seeing the results of new anti-hazing, anti-alcohol rules that HQ's and Universities have come up with. It'll eventually taper off (I hope)

DeltAlum · #20 11-15-2002, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
As I recall EVERY year lately has been a rough year. It's just now that we're really seeing the results of new anti-hazing, anti-alcohol rules that HQ's and Universities have come up with. It'll eventually taper off (I hope)

Every year has been tough. I agree.

Unfortunately, the only way I see it "tapering off" is for members and chapters to stop openly breaking the rules, the law and being generally stubborn or dumb.

We're all sick of hearing about liability and risk management, but without taking them seriously, the Greek System has an excellent chance of being sued out of existance. That's why we're seeing the hazing and alcohol rules. In many cases, it's the reason the university administrations are turning against us. They don't want the liability either.

This isn't a game. It's real serious. It's survival.

Kevin · #21 11-15-2002, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum

Every year has been tough. I agree.

Unfortunately, the only way I see it "tapering off" is for members and chapters to stop openly breaking the rules, the law and being generally stubborn or dumb.

We're all sick of hearing about liability and risk management, but without taking them seriously, the Greek System has an excellent chance of being sued out of existance. That's why we're seeing the hazing and alcohol rules. In many cases, it's the reason the university administrations are turning against us. They don't want the liability either.

This isn't a game. It's real serious. It's survival.

Well I think it will. Cultures don't change overnight. This is why many fraternities have policies of waiting 3 or 4 years before allowing groups to reapply for a charter. This ensures that the new group will be able to form its own traditions and practices.

Unfortunately, I think that's what it needs to come to. If a chapter can't cut it and follow the laws of the land and the rules that they had the opportunity to create and influence at our Grand Chapter then they don't need a charter. Maybe someone a few years down the road can pick up where they left off.

I think if national organizations show they are serious about making their chapters follow the rules, university administrations will be more conducive to GLO's. Especially in schools that rely on donations, GLO members BY FAR give more money than those that were unafilliated.

dzrose93 · #22 11-15-2002, 05:02 PM

This was a letter to the editor posted in today's paper about the article :

Alligator cowered to Greek community

Editor: The Alligator has finally left me scratching my head. No easy task either. When I saw the Alligator running a pro-Greek editorial I was aghast.

How can an "independent" organization such as this kowtow to this irresponsible minority?

Here's how the average UF student sees this situation. Out of the nearly 40,000 people on campus, a mere 5,000 are Greek. What they do is dominate the Student Government, garner all of the publicity not given to the athletics department and make a mockery of higher learning.

Rapes, assaults, exclusion and elitism are what the Greek system represents. Getting new recruits drunk? That's fine by me. What isn't is the stupidity involved with making them violently ill so they have to go to the emergency room and get bad publicity thrust upon them.

Sure, some might do good things for the community, but when it is all said and done, these kids will have no knowledge. They will return to their hometowns where their parents will have them set up in cushy jobs with no accountability.

Lack of brainpower and abuse of privilege. Sound familiar? It should to the Alligator.

kdonline · #23 11-15-2002, 06:59 PM

Great letter.

A major point left out: many many greeks never graduate from UF. Greeks, as a whole, might have good GPAs, but there are plenty who drop out and/or transfer - their GPAs are not high enough to get into their upper division College.

And as for those cushy jobs...well, not ALL of us are so lucky to have those waiting for us back home!

UF_PikePC98 · #24 11-16-2002, 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by kdonline
Great letter.

A major point left out: many many greeks never graduate from UF. Greeks, as a whole, might have good GPAs, but there are plenty who drop out and/or transfer - their GPAs are not high enough to get into their upper division College.

And as for those cushy jobs...well, not ALL of us are so lucky to have those waiting for us back home!

My GPA wasn't bad. I decided to transfer because I wasn't focusing on school. I partied way too much, every night except sunday. It seemed like my goal everynight was to get wasted and laid. When I got tired of a$$, I slept and chilled with my boys.

After 4 years of that crapp, I decided it's time to finish school.

As for a cushy job, I like to think of myself as independent. I live only on what my parents give me and ask for nothing more. Somtimes my mother decides to "bless" my bank account, I'm never one to turn down god's blessings......

kdonline · #25 11-16-2002, 11:52 AM

That's nice that you decided to confess to everyone on GC.

But I wasn't talking about you specifically. I suppose you DO fall into that category, since admit to being at UF for 4 years & did not get a degree.

Since we're confessing, then I might as well add: I always thought it was weird when 23-25 year olds would still be partying with collegians, who are mostly in the 18-19 age range. I guess it's easy pickings for some, if that's all that their life is about.

Then again, when I was 23 & met a guy my age or older who hadn't finished his undergrad degree...well, I wouldn't bother with him. Good looks & all the "perks" are everywhere in Miami - this describes about 90% of the men down here. But to find someone who is intellectually equal - this is very rare. Ironically enough, I married a Los Angeles boy - probably the only other place in the US that compares to Miami!

Ah...but I digress from the topic at hand...