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10-24-2002, 11:31 PM
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re: Banning Crescents
I was an active member when LXA banned Lil' sister organizations
nationally (or at least really began enforcing it)....it was due to a
lawsuit, of course.
The Jaycee's (Junior Chamber of Commerce) organization
(an all male national organization at the time) used
to have a women's auxilary called the Jaycettes...in the mid to
late 80's, some Jaycettes sued the Jaycees for treating women
as second class citizens.
The girls participated, worked, supported, etc. the organization
every bit as much as the guys, but were not allowed membership,
voting rights, or the ability to hold office in the Jaycees.
The U.S. Supreme Court finally decided that this was
discrimination against women (treating them as second-class
members), since they participated as fully as the guys, but
had no "say" in the Jaycee's activities. The SC. ordered the
Jaycees to go co-ed. All-male organizations may exist, but
they may not treat "participating" women as second-class.
LXA, and as I recall, many/most national fraternities, ordered
their chapters to disband aux. women's organizations (Lil
sister clubs) for fear a Crescent Girl somewhere would bring
a similar suit against LXA, and with the precedent set by
the Supreme Court, force LXA to go co-ed.
I remember our Phi Kappa Tau chapter received a letter from
their National office telling them they had 2 weeks to disband
their Lil Sis group, or risk losing their charter (they had
ignored previous orders, if I remember correctly)
The late 80's were a "lawsuit-happy" time in our country.
In fact, alot of the "silly rules" the fraternity has are due
to lawsuits....ever heard about why LXA nationals bans
"open parties"??? (ie. can't put signs up on campus that
invite the whole campus to an event).
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10-25-2002, 03:51 AM
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I disagree with both of your points in tha5t they are rooted in flawed legal thinking. Sister organizations for our greek orgs makes us ecxtremely vulnerable to discrimination lawsuits that plague orgs like the elks and boy scouts. By keeping these groups out and sororities being a separate but equal item on the docket we seem serious about keeping our single sex status.
Sometimes you guys need to think outside that 1960's/1970's box
Jason Lenox
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10-25-2002, 10:51 AM
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Sorry my post caused issues  but here's a link to the page that has a few of the pictures from the float:
Lambda Chi Homecoming Float
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10-25-2002, 11:08 AM
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re: Lenoxx
My post must have been misleading...I AGREE with and
SUPPORT what the National organization has done reguarding
Lil Sis organizations....I guess I just tried to explain it in
a way to be sympathetic to those with opposite views....
ie. the use of the phrase "silly rules"....I agree with the
"silly rules" that fall in this category!
Just a clarification.
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10-25-2002, 08:52 PM
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The trend lately has been for courts to throw out 'frivilous' lawsuits of this nature. Hopefully it is in the past when both the brothers of a fraternity and their auxilliary little sisters can be torn apart because of one individual bent on 'making a statement'. But that didn't even happen.
It was the fear of it. We tore ourselves apart before they could get their grubby hands on us, which amounts to self-destruction.
It's even sadder to still see today the potential victims supporting the views of some unknown enemy. In my mind, that's morally wrong because it goes against everything they know is right and mutually benficial.
You know what's interesting about lawyers? Ninety-nine percent of them give the rest a bad name. That's a sick joke. What's even more disturbing is how many of us have bought into the BS and take it for gospel. It's not gospel or even current thinking.
It's time we all (male and female) reach down and see what we've got! I think you know what I mean.
Jono
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10-26-2002, 08:43 PM
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What, this has gone from floats to Cresents.
Good pix of the float, outstanding!
Jono is right on about this and nothing was ever explained to anyone, it just ended by edict.
What a damn shame as the ladies could be such a help and vice versa!
While we never had a Lil Sis group, We had our Cresent Girl that ran in a contest and had their Pictures in the School Albumn.
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10-27-2002, 02:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by axotiger
Sorry my post caused issues but here's a link to the page that has a few of the pictures from the float:
Lambda Chi Homecoming Float
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don't sweat it.
cool float, no marines though?  i'm a little biased, since that's who i work for. having a cutie little sis in the pictures more than makes up for it though
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10-28-2002, 09:46 AM
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Hey guys, glad you liked the pictures!  If I ever get more, I'll post them. Hope everyone had a great weekend!!
© stevie
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