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Old 12-01-2002, 08:28 PM
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I haven't seen this movie yet. Should I bother seeing it?
If you like being scared SH*TLESS! This movie is also for those w/ active imaginations and curiousity.

I KNOW this movie has a parallel story to it, but I can't figure it out. There were to many things that went unexplained in the movie, I don't think it's just "loose ends" or holes in the plot.

For example the following went unanswered for me:
*The little boy drawing Katie in the in the bathtub, BEFORE she died
*Who was standing on top of the staircase at Katie's house
*Intestines coming out of that guys mouth (symbolism)
*The flies (symbolism)
*The lighthouse (symbolism)
*The relation of the horses, besides the plague.
*The chopped fingers (synbolism)
*WHO filmed that tape
*The blurring of the pics (symbolism)
*The tree (sybolism)
*The nosebleeds (symbolism)
*The red sunset (symbolism)
NOTE: I did miss a little part of the movie.

My opinion, the parallel storyline and sybolism had to do either with sex/infertility or threats to Japanese culture.
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Old 12-01-2002, 09:18 PM
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This year's Hawaii Film Festival included a Japanese film entitled "Dark Water"...based on the novel by Suzuki Koji, the same author of "The Ring."

I noticed that, of all the similarities between the two, the two strongest were the heavy rain and the fact that there was a little girl in both movies. The little girls also looked similar and were responsible for the torment in the film.

I don't think that the film had anything to do with a threat to Japanese culture. Producers used to novel to basically come up with their own version of the story. The novel itself is different from the film, and hopefully they'll get an English translation of the novel out soon. Maybe my Nihongo's not as good as I thought it was, but the novel was VERY different from the movie!
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Old 12-01-2002, 11:14 PM
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I didnt think the movie was that scary while I was watching it. Like, things would happen and people would start screaming, and i'd be like "what the heck? calm down people!"

but..... that night and the night after.... i had problems sleeping because of the movie! I had to ask my brother to come sleep with me!
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Old 12-02-2002, 12:37 AM
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If you like being scared SH*TLESS! This movie is also for those w/ active imaginations and curiousity.

I KNOW this movie has a parallel story to it, but I can't figure it out. There were to many things that went unexplained in the movie, I don't think it's just "loose ends" or holes in the plot.

For example the following went unanswered for me:
*The little boy drawing Katie in the in the bathtub, BEFORE she died
*Who was standing on top of the staircase at Katie's house
*Intestines coming out of that guys mouth (symbolism)
*The flies (symbolism)
*The lighthouse (symbolism)
*The relation of the horses, besides the plague.
*The chopped fingers (synbolism)
*WHO filmed that tape
*The blurring of the pics (symbolism)
*The tree (sybolism)
*The nosebleeds (symbolism)
*The red sunset (symbolism)
NOTE: I did miss a little part of the movie.

My opinion, the parallel storyline and sybolism had to do either with sex/infertility or threats to Japanese culture.
I saw the movie and loved it. Okay, I will try to explain theses things the best I can.
I think it was Becca, her friend.
The little boy drew the pictures was Katie's cousin. She told him that she was going to die.
Intestines I think just because he needed to die somehow.
Flies- She caught a live fly when she thought it was on the tape. I think it means that it was just a normal tape, that it could affect the living.
The lighthouse tipped off the reporter as to where the horse farm was. It was the location of the island.
Horese..it was said animals can pick up on stuff.
I don't remember the chopped fingers.
No one filmed the tape. It was a projection of Samara's mind, just like the pictures that appered in the psych ward and the tree that was burned into her room in the hay loft.
The tree marked the spot near the well, so that someone could find her.
Nosebleeds= Maybe just to indentify those who have seen the tape.
The blurring of the pics means they will die soon, like they are being erased, because Samara's parents wanted her erased.
The red sunset I think, maybe cuz stuffed was burned (the hand prints, the tree in the barn, the pictures, etc) plus it helped Indentify the tree.

Hoped that helped. One of the better movies I've seen in a while.
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Old 02-03-2003, 01:12 AM
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Okay, old thread, I know. But I just came back from seeing it (with my whole pledge class!) and I know there's not a chance I'm going to sleep tonight. It was SOOO scary! And being the biggest wuss in the world doesn't help. Of course all of my roommates are gone tonight - which I guess is good, because I have every light in the apartment on
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Old 03-05-2003, 12:19 AM
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I just saw the movie tonight. I'm confused as all hell as to what exactly transpired.

First: So, the girl was in the mental hospital....earily looked like the friend of the cousin that went into the hospital.

Second: So why was Rachel and the boy saved and the father not?

Third: If she wasn't meant to be resurrected from the well then why did "she" lead them there?

Fourth: What was with the ending where Rachel see's the woman getting onto the elevator to go upstairs where the father is now dead? Is that woman supposed to represent Samara?

Fifth: I thought the mom ended up in the mental hospital...so when did Samara end up there and how come she was let out then?
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Old 03-05-2003, 03:51 AM
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Second: So why was Rachel and the boy saved and the father not?

Because Rachel and the boy made a copy of the tape and the father didn't - Samara wanted to be heard, so the only way people survive is if they make sure she is.

Talk about cruelty - My roommate is on a date with a guy now watching the Ring at his house, For when she comes in, I have a blank tape marked "COPY" sitting on the TV and on the TV is static because I've got it on a channel we don't get. Ain't I fun! She won't ever forgive me for this...

Crystal
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Old 03-05-2003, 10:03 AM
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MTSUGirl, that is crazy!

Did she see it when she came in?
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Old 03-05-2003, 10:31 AM
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I can't even read this thread for fear of ruining the ending but the movie is on the top of my Netflix list so I'll see it soon. I'm so excited -- I love scary movies!
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Old 03-05-2003, 12:38 PM
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Talk about cruelty - My roommate is on a date with a guy now watching the Ring at his house, For when she comes in, I have a blank tape marked "COPY" sitting on the TV and on the TV is static because I've got it on a channel we don't get. Ain't I fun! She won't ever forgive me for this...

Crystal
OMG! that is pure evil! just kidding! you have to let us know what happened!
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Old 03-05-2003, 03:24 PM
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i saw that movie back when it first came out. will get the video? hell no!! remember when the girl came out of the well and walked through the tv screen? well for weeks i kept imagining that when i was in bed. scared the crap out of me. my boyfriend that it was lame! whatever, it freaked me out. the whole vibe of the movie was disturbing.
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Old 03-05-2003, 03:25 PM
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i didn't really think it was that scary....fell asleep twice while watching it.
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Old 03-05-2003, 03:31 PM
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Third: If she wasn't meant to be resurrected from the well then why did "she" lead them there?
I think it was the fact she wanted to torment people because she was tormented as a child. And the fact that she just wanted some attention.
She got my attention!!
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Old 03-05-2003, 06:35 PM
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Hey, I saw it in October, and I still wake up in the middle of the night and get freaked out by my TV!!!
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Old 03-05-2003, 10:47 PM
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I got the dvd last night!!
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